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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:10 AM
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Jackass' star Ryan Dunn killed in car wreck
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 11:12 AM by rsmith6621
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_localphi/20110620/ts_yblog_localphi/actor-ryan-dunn-of-jackass-killed-in-car-accident-in-chester-county

Ryan Dunn, star of the reality show "Jackass," has died in a car accident in Pennsylvania, CBS Philly has learned.

Sources say the West Chester native was one of two people killed in a single car crash in Chester County early Monday morning. The double fatal crash happened at about 3 a.m. on Route 322 near New Street in West Goshen Township.

According to the police report released by West Goshen, the 2007 Porsche Dunn was driving crashed into a wooded area off the road and burst into flames. Both Dunn and his unidentified passenger died as a result of injuries they sustained in the crash. Police believe speed may have played a role in the accident.

Dunn is best known as a daredevil and sidekick of Bam Margera in the popular stunt and prank show "Jackass" which is filmed in the West Chester region.
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baldingrockwarlord2 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:54 AM
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1. Call me heartless, but...
no sympathy goes out from where I sit. I was never a fan of the Jackass series or movies and at 3 a.m., I suspect more than speed was a factor. Jackass? Most likely.Stupid is as stupid does.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:58 AM
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2. You're heartless. nt
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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 01:35 PM
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8. Heartless.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 03:52 PM
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10. I don't think it's heartless - he took someone else's life also.
Drinking and driving.

Sad for everyone involved and a good lesson for all of us.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 04:36 PM
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14. I may be old fashioned, but I don't think any of them deserved to die
License revoked? Sure

Die? I guess I'm just not big on revenge
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:33 PM
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52. Where did I say that?
Or did you respond to the wrong post again?

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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 12:43 AM
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57. The other person's name was Zach Hartwell.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:33 PM
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baldingrockwarlord2 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:40 PM
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36. He's dead because.....
He's dead because he made the stupid (jackass) decision to drive wasted drunk at a high rate of speed in car he had no business driving in that condition. Just because he may have been a beloved idiot of a stupid tv show/movies doesn't earn him any more sympathy points or the "get out of being called an idiot" card. In fact, since he took part in jackass stunts and pranks and became famous doing so there is a certain amount of, albeit perverse, poetic justice that he died by his own poor decision and judgement. The only unfortunate thing here is that he took a passenger with him and that it wasn't Amy Whitehouse... The show sucked, the movies suck, so does knoxville, so did Dunn and the rest of the douchenozzles. Now Dunn is finished(pun intended).
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 08:58 PM
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40. What if he took out a family driving home
trying to get home, with kids asleep in the back? Would it be OK to be angry with him then??

If he was drunk, I have no sympathy for him. There is so much education about drinking and driving today, no excuses!! He didn't deserve to die, but he doesn't deserve our sympathy either.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:39 PM
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23. You are a jerk.
Way to judge though.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:05 PM
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30. More than heartless. I'm not a fan either, but my heart goes out to his
friends, family and fans. Too young to go.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 08:36 PM
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38. Wow, are you a complete and total mean and cold hearted jerk. n-t
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:01 PM
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41. If he was drunk, no sympathy here either - he killed another person
and could have killed innocent drivers in other cars.

Remember that woman in Westchester NY a few years ago who killed herself and 7 others, including her kids?? How many here would have sympathy for her?? No excuse for drunk driving. I pray my kids never, ever do it.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:37 PM
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43. I also have little sympathy for drunk drivers
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 09:37 PM by WatsonT
Usually they end up killing the other person. So in this case I guess it worked out well.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:55 PM
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45. I dont either but what I'm surprised at,,,
Is that his friends let him get in the car after he's been drinking that much. My group of friends that I hang out with is that tight-knit and we know that if one of us has been drinking that much - we take away his or her keys.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:57 PM
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46. Consider his on camera friends
I'm guessing his off-camera friends aren't much better.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 10:54 PM
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48. Yeah true, I can't really argue with that one!
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:34 AM
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63. Maybe, he didn't have real friends.
Real friends watch your back and take the keys away. That way, you don't end up killing yourself or others, maiming yourself or others, etc.

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:58 PM
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47. As DU further devolves into heartless assholes posting hateful shit
my heart goes out to those that loved this man and his passenger. Relishing in the death of someone who made mistakes speaks more about YOU. Just an fyi.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 10:58 PM
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49. Yes. People who make dumb decisions deserve DEATH
Fucker got exactly what he deserved. In fact, death is too good for that asshole. Too bad he couldn't have been revived and kept in a state of extreme pain without medications for a few years.

:sarcasm:
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 01:08 PM
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3. Gee, who could have seen something like that coming?
It sounds as though the guy confused a show with a lifestyle.

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 01:10 PM
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4. Drinking and driving, especially driving fast, don't mix.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 01:15 PM
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5. How ironic.
And no one was there to film it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 04:35 PM
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13. Ironic? No
Ironic would be Jim Fixx dying while jogging
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 04:58 PM
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15. And ironic would also be a crazy-ass stunt man who regularly crashes cars and stuff...
...dying in a car crash.

.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:12 PM
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16. Ah yes, I guess you're right
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:51 PM
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26. You've obviously never watched the show......
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 05:52 PM by Joe the Revelator
...ever.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 01:26 PM
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6. Make that "fiery car crash"

"Dunn was at the wheel when his Porsche careened over the road's guardrail and into the woods before bursting into flames."


--------

Not the way I'd want to go.

RIP jackass
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 01:32 PM
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7. Damn, I love Jackass. Dunn was one of the best of the group.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 03:35 PM
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9. Jackass star wins Darwin award. Very appropriate. (nt)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 04:25 PM
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11. A later-day James Dean, killed in his bitchin Porsche.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:31 PM
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51. Dean was probably speeding in his new 550 Spyder, the "Little Bastard."
A local yokel turned in front of Dean, in broad daylight. Dean could not stop. I have never heard of any alcohol involved in Dean's death. But Dean had already received a ticket for speeding earlier in the day (9/30/1955). A week before his was killed, James Dean met the British actor Alec Guinness who putatively commented that the car appeared "sinister" and said to Dean : "If you get in that car you will be found dead in it by this time next week."

A Porsche is a pretty good cage in a wreck. I survived a nasty wreck of a new Porsche 911S in 1968, sitting in the passenger seat. Speed and alcohol were involved. The driver was drunk as a lord, and I was not any better. He was not scratched. I spent a week in the hospital with multiple minor injuries (the kind they treat-and-release nowadays). But I was so impressed by the integrity of the Porsche vehicle that I have owned two since then: a 1965 356C straight coupe and a 1978 911SC straight coupe.



James Dean's new Porsche 550 Spyder, the "Little Bastard."
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 04:35 PM
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12. Sad. Not a way I would want to go.
I do not believe he "had it coming" as no one should "have it coming"

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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:19 PM
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17. Drinking and driving is like Russian roulette, except the victims are random.
Some days nobody gets hurt or dies. Some days random people on the road get hurt or die. Some days the idiot person playing the sick game gets hurt or dies. Foreseeable consequences. No sympathy here. None.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:24 PM
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18. Sympathy, Empathy...who needs those? Those are dumb hippie values...
Instead hate and anger are good substitutes in a pinch
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:26 PM
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19. Tell me that when it's your family murdered by some idiot drunk,
Then I'll hear all about your highborn hippie values.

If you hold a loaded gun to your own head, chances are it might go off.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:29 PM
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20. "Murdered" I do not think that word means what you think it means
Manslaughter, yes. You can manslaughter a family by drinking and driving, but murder implies intent, and you would be wrong if you argued that they had the intent to murder the other passanger.

And yes, I would be mad. But revenge solves nothing. No matter how good it may sound, in the end it will just bring more suffering.

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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:35 PM
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22. You know what?
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 05:35 PM by LiberalAndProud
It feels like murder. They are dead. And if some fool hadn't decided he could handle his liquor and his car, they would not be. So if that same fool ends up killing himself instead, cry me a fucking river.

Oh and it's not suicide either, I know.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:46 PM
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25. Never said it was suicide
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 05:47 PM by Taverner
I find it funny that there are certain people we are supposed to hate, and if we don't hate them enough and properly, we are considered some kind of gullible idiot

Don't worry, drunk driving will go the way of the dinosaur in ten years time, as the self-driving car is no longer science fiction. But what will people do then? There will be no one to hate and have contempt for?

BTW, having driven a Ferrari, a Porsche and a Maserati before let me tell you that you or I would have trouble driving those cars completely sober. You're not even out of first gear when it hits 50. I am not blaming it on the evil sports car, but it provides a little context for what was going on. I like to err on the side of freedom, but some people should simply not have access to sports cars.

ON EDIT: Would you tell his mother, son, daughter, father or family that he was an idiot and deserved to die?

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:57 PM
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28. Technology won't save you from prosecution for driving drunk. You're still responsible for the car.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:00 PM
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29. So if the car is self driving, and the owner is drunk, and in the passenger seat
You think the driver should be locked up, even though they aren't technically driving the car

Now THAT'S some backward logic!

I think the real issue isn't drunk driving, it's that YOU HATE ALCOHOL DRINKERS
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:08 PM
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31. I hate people who make the choice to drink and drive.
Fucking hate them. I hope I'm not talking about you. Really I do. Choose. Drink OR drive. NOT HARD.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:13 PM
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32. I don't drink and drive, but you know, hate is an unhealthy thing to fixate on
Seriously - take it from someone who knows...
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:50 PM
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53. People have a right to hate people who make themselves stray bullets
causing death and destruction to innocent people around them.

And hate is no more unhealthy than love in a typical person. I see no cause for you to paint anyone with "fixation" when hate is as normal a feeling as any.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:54 PM
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54. "People have a right to hate..." While I agree with you on that...
I do not agree that we should hate or are compelled to hate

Your choice to hate is yours alone, but I also ask the right not to hate

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:57 PM
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:26 PM
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35. Its becoming more common to charge DUI deaths as murder.
Murder charges do not require intent.

Given that Dunn completed a first offenders program for a prior DUI conviction, the state would have no problem asking for a murder charge if he had killed his passenger and not himself.

It doesn't matter if he intended to kill his passenger or not. If he knew actions could result in his passengers death, then he acted with malice in the form of reckless indifference.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:28 PM
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42. Reckless Indifference. Not murder.
I hate it when a perfectly good word gets opened to encompass more than it was meant to mean. Murder is one of those words - and Vehicular Manslaughter is not Murder.

I also think there should not be a 1st Degree Murder charge with a D&D death. You probably disagree. But there is a big difference. Intent is what makes that difference.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:55 PM
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55. The law may have screwed up a perfectly good word, its still a murder charge.
It does not matter if you did not intend to kill someone. If you intend to act in reckless indifference to human life - you know what you're about to do could very well kill someone, but you go do it anyway - that is malice.

Its a second degree murder charge, not first. And without a prior DUI conviction, the state doesn't have enough to show indifference.

The first time offender program probably included some kind of alcohol education class, so you can no longer claim you didn't understand the dangers of your action - the line between negligence and indifference. That is the case here in CA, and from what I gather about Penn, likely the case there.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 12:32 AM
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56. There are some seriously unethical problems with that eom
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:08 AM
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59. I don't understand.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 01:24 AM by LiberalAndProud
Don't "foreseeable consequences" have any place in these ethical considerations? In all sincerity, help me understand your ethical position.

On edit: Is it Wreckless Indifference or Willful Negligence? I tend to lean toward the "willful" definition. Why would that be wrong?
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:39 PM
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44. He made a decision that could very well have killed innocent people
and in fact does kill or maim or cripple innocent people all the time.

I have little sympathy for him.

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 05:46 PM
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24. Some ppl will seize on his tragedy as "proof" that ballpunching contests while driving blindfolded
at 100 mph is reckless bad behavior. Some people are just so predictable. If the alcohol hadn't all burned off in the crash, they'd say drinking and driving don't mix either.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:04 PM
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33. +100
Perfect.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:05 PM
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34. Live fast, die stupid.
That's my motto. And the science of statistics tells me that it's the way to go if you like things like "a long life".
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 08:30 PM
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37. Murphy & Murphy sez sooner or later.......the odds don't lie...
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IrishEyes Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 08:54 PM
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39. My condolences to his family and the family of the passenger
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 08:55 PM by IrishEyes
I hope they both rest in peace. I think the news said he was 34. That is a young age to die.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:06 PM
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50. Darwin Award..too bad he took someone with him... n.t
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 12:57 AM
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58. When a redneck shoots himself, it's a Darwin, but a drunk Jackass...
He's treated like some kind of creative genius. "Oh, but his family is grieving ..."

As an obit said "best known for shoving a Hotwheels car up his rectum..."

He drank and drove, but only after bragging in twitter that he was "partying" (aka Drunk)

He also killed someone else and what would have happened if he killed more people, innocent sober people?

Fuck him, he was a jackass in life and it killed him
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:15 AM
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60. He was shaky on Minute To Win It a couple weeks back
He let Steve-O do all the fine coordination challenges.

I was about as shaky 18 months ago, then I checked myself into rehab for a month. I'm feeling much better now, and much more alive, thanks for caring.


R.I.P. Ryan Dunn

Jackass



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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:38 AM
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62. I don't feel sorry for him one bit. Just for the other person and friends and family.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:11 AM
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64. Neither do I
I had a friend killed by a drunk driver, I fucking HATE drunk drivers!!! :grr:
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:36 AM
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61. Legal disclaimer: Do not try this at home.
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