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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:36 PM
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Did Obama "Wimp Out" on Gay Marriage?
Source: Salon

President Barack Obama spoke to LGBT supporters (and generous contributors) at a gala fundraising event in New York City Thursday night. Because of the event's location and timing -- smack in the middle of the New York state legislature's debate on gay marriage -- the president was under intense scrutiny; some same-sex marriage backers hoped (despite warnings to the contrary) that the president might finally offer them his unequivocal support.

They were almost universally disappointed. "Instead of discussing his stand on the issue -- one on which his aides have said he’s 'evolving' -- the president described the battle underway in New York as a hallmark of democracy," Politico's Maggie Haberman reported. Members of the audience "were clearly looking for more."

"Certainly the gala offered the perfect opportunity for Obama to at least throw his support behind the same-sex marriage bill currently working its way through Albany," Nancy Goldstein wrote this morning in The Daily Beast. But "instead Obama, reading from a script that might as well have come from 2008, offered up a straight diet of the same ringing but empty 'inspirational' rhetoric that has begun to wear thin with so many of his progressive supporters." The performance was a "wimp-out" -- and, for the president, a lucrative one.

more: http://www.salon.com/news/gay_marriage/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/06/24/obama_gay_marriage
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:39 PM
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1. Is the Pope a former Nazi Youth and Catholic?
OF COURSE!
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:09 PM
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8. .
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 01:14 AM
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14. LOL
how am I going to sleep after seeing that pic!
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:40 PM
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2. Would you want the Republican State Senate to cancel a vote...
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 12:40 PM by brooklynite
...so as not to "give the President a win" after he makes a dramatic "tear down this wall" speech? His opinion isn't going to change anyone's mind in favor in Albany; he would be smarter to address the issue more broadly after the State Senate Republicans decide what they're going to do.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:44 PM
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3. Apologia.
He could have declared his support for marriage equality without interjecting himself into the NY vote.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 01:31 AM
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16. He addressed it broadly. He believes in "state's rights"!
:puke:
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:46 PM
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4. Yes, he did. Equality for all Americans is not important to him
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:01 PM
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5. "Continued his legacy of betrayal" is how I would put it.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 09:44 AM
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22. +1.
:thumbsup:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:04 PM
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:06 PM
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7. It was a brilliant political maneuver
Think of all those votes he didn't alienate from people who wouldn't vote for him in a million years. You people are okay with that, aren't you? Or are you just a bunch of hyper-critical pony lovers who don't grasp the real world and the political considerations that must be made so as to advance the progressive agenda by refusing to take a baby step forward? It's very complicated, 12th level Vulcan chess, so don't be afraid to say you don't understand it.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:43 PM
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12. + 1000 !
plus, I heard the President give a speech that left no doubt that he personally believes in equality for all. :wtf:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 01:27 AM
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15. +1000! And
:hug:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 09:58 AM
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23. LOL!
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:28 PM
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9. Perhaps he just feels his job retention is more important
than peoples' rights ....... a man has to have priorities
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:07 PM
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10. Recommend
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:24 PM
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11. In a word, YES.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:20 PM
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13. On this and many other things
thew man has a backbone made of jello.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 01:33 AM
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17. Probably. I basically do not listen to him.
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AlicePaulLiberal Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 01:36 AM
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18. Yes.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 01:39 AM
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19. I think he's done as much as he possibly can without writing a national marriage bill and he's
afraid of giving the repigs an issue to bash him with heading into 2012. He'll probably push for it after he wins re-election.
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AlicePaulLiberal Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 01:45 AM
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20. He is a coward
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 09:40 AM
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21. He's a politician which is pretty much the samething.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 09:58 AM
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24. That's funny. /nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 10:01 AM
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25. States' rights isn't going to overturn the constitutional amendments in 40 states and counting.
North Carolina will have a constitutional amendment against equal marriage on the ballot in 2012. We'll be awash in "family" advertising funded by the Catholic Church, and that advertising will be directed against Obama as well.

Obama is handing most of the country a weapon to be used against him. It's a very shortsighted strategy on his part.
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