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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:18 PM
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Hey, Washington! Tax those who've benefitted most from 30 years of Trickle Down Voodoo Economics...
Certainly would help balance the budget a lot faster than waiting for a bunch of invisible jobs to magically appear.



It'd also wipe the smirks off those still with us who orchestrated this 30-year fiscal disaster.



"Trickle Down" economics was a "Trojan Horse" -- David Stockman

EXCERPT...

In the 1980’s Ronald Reagan ushered in a new era in American economics as he cut the top tax bracket from 70% down to 50% and then down again to 28%. In order to get support for doing this from the people, and also from politicians, a very crafty set of lies were produced. As David Stockman, then Reagan’s budget director, put it: giving small tax cuts across the board to all brackets was simply a “Trojan Horse” that was used to get approval for the huge top tax bracket cuts. “Trickle-Down” was a term used by Republicans that meant giving tax cuts to the rich. Stockman explains that:
    "It's kind of hard to sell 'trickle down,' so the supply-side formula was the only way to get a tax policy that was really 'trickle down.' Supply-side is 'trickle-down' theory."

    "Yes, Stockman conceded, when one stripped away the new rhetoric emphasizing across-the-board cuts, the supply-side theory was really new clothes for the unpopular doctrine of the old Republican orthodoxy."

    "…the Reagan coalition prevailed again in the House and Congress passed the tax-cut legislation with a final frenzy of trading and bargaining. Again, Stockman was not exhilarated by the victory. On the contrary, it seemed to leave a bad taste in his mouth, as though the democratic process had finally succeeded in shocking him by its intensity and its greed. Once again, Stockman participated in the trading -- special tax concessions for oil -- lease holders and real-estate tax shelters, and generous loopholes that virtually eliminated the corporate income tax. Stockman sat in the room and saw it happen."

    "'Do you realize the greed that came to the forefront?' Stockman asked with wonder. 'The hogs were really feeding. The greed level, the level of opportunism, just got out of control.'"


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Taxing the holdings and wealth of the Have-Mores also would help pay off the national debt, on which interest payments topped $412 Billion last year.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:27 PM
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1. 'Serious People' heart Voodoo Economics
Why? I don't know.



The Return Of Voodoo Economics

By Sebastian Mallaby
Washington Post
Monday, May 15, 2006

Nobody serious believes that tax cuts pay for themselves, as I noted last week. But most senior Republicans flunk this test of seriousness.

In January, George W. Bush declared that, "by cutting the taxes on the American people, this economy is strong, and the overall tax revenues have hit at record levels." Regrettably, this endorsement of what his dad called voodoo economics was not a one-time oversight. The next month, Bush told a New Hampshire audience, "You cut taxes and the tax revenues increase."

Bush is not alone in this. Dick Cheney, allegedly a serious person, asserted in February that the "tax cuts have translated into higher federal revenues."

Bill Frist is sometimes taken seriously, not least by himself. And yet the Republican Senate leader is capable of saying: "Many people in Washington have long known a dirty little secret about tax-cut measures: When done right, they actually result in more money for the government."

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Gee. That was 2006? Why do so many serious people today still buy this load of crapola?
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:12 PM
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2. That's what we did the first time we tasted the fruits of Trickle Down Nation.
I love William Greider for all his hard work and research. It was in Secrets of the Temple that I found out who that term "trickle down" actually came from:

“Give tax breaks to large corporations, so that money can trickle down to the general public, in the form of extra jobs.” -Andrew Mellon

From Secrets of the Temple:

The formulation known as "supply-side economics" was actually an updated version of the tax philosophy first articulated in the 1920s by Andrew Mellon, Treasury Secretary for Reagan's boyhood hero, Calvin Coolidge. The intent was to scale back the progressive income tax; the assumption was that, once in private hands, the money would flow into capital investments, building up the supply side of the economy--new factories and technologies, a larger base of productive capacity. All together, however, Reagan's tax cuts would reduce the federal government's revenue by a total of $540 billion over five years, raising a specter that would have alarmed the conservative orthodoxy of Andrew Mellon and Calvin Coolidge--huge federal deficits, in peacetime and under a Republican President.


http://books.google.com/books?id=JxSU5I58L-wC&pg=PA353&lpg=PA353&dq=Secrets+of+the+Temple,+Andrew+Mellon&source=bl&ots=Z2qtAHG3JD&sig=fgJOe6VEo5kI857-rxw_xABDwAw&hl=en&ei=pmYKTr7uDcjjiAKNm-XgAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Under Dumbya, we had trickle-down on steroids.

The solution: we need FDR on steroids.

Anyone resemble that description out there?
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:57 PM
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4. the question is: would a newbie politician be taken seriously? If he/she is
adamantly FDR-type of person, is it possible for that person to win an election?
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:20 PM
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7. Excellent question!
My opinion is that there would need to be finesse with this FDR-type person, almost a Trojan-Horse FDR. Witness the uproar to even the hint of an out-and-out socialist like Sanders challenging the Executive status quo, just on this website alone. It doesn't seem to me that someone who is adamantly FDR-like would not be marginalized by the DLC and their MSM friends. That's just the way the system is. It's OKIYAR, where someone like Bachmann is spoken of as a "serious" front-runner, but when a Dem bites the corporate hand in public, the ostracism is palpable.

I think it would take someone who could seduce the Wealthy Elite into thinking their vested interests would be protected, then pull the rug out from under them after the election. That FDR-type would need to pick a running mate just as progressive to mitigate the threat of assassination undermining the New New Deal.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:42 AM
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11. that's exactly what I've been thinking, now how to go about finding
someone with a "clean record"-like the inverse of the head of the Supreme Court, the GOP has been doing this with fake-as-hell "moderate Republicans", that's how W ran the 1st time.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:55 AM
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5. Thanks to the Voodoo converted, Capitalism's Invisible Army has had a field day.
Something from the now-defunct Covert Action Quarterly archive:



The CIA: Banking on Intelligence

Anthony L. Kimery

The CIA has collected, and the intelligence community has collected, economic intelligence of one kind or another since its inception. -‑ Director of Central Intelligence, R. James Woolsey

The CIA has never been above breaking the law as it battles communists, nationalists, terrorists, or the latest "national security threat": foreign‑directed economic and financial subterfuge. This growing economic focus comes at the bidding of many voices in the CIA, Pentagon, and corporate community who believe the U.S.'s primary intelligence mission should be to help industry compete in the global marketplace. There has been little public discussion, however, over just when corporate competition becomes a sufficient threat to the national security to unleash the corruptible talents of the intelligence community into the world of international finance.

"New" Intelligence Requirements: Old Practices

That line between "national security" and private financial interests has long been mutable and subject to the day‑to‑day needs of the CIA. For decades, the U.S. has used currency manipulations, embargoes, and other forms of economic pressure to undermine its foes. When the 1945 Bretton Woods agreement established the U.S. dollar as the international currency of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, the U.S. secured enormous international financial leverage. It can direct intense fiscal pressure against foreign financial institutions, and even an entire national economy, by activating the global power of the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve (along with the international financial institutions it controls). Witness the long‑standing embargo against Cuba, the economic sabotage of Nicaragua in the 1980s, the illegal withholding of Panama's canal revenues between 1987 and 1990, and the current international sanctions against Iraq. Economic motives have always driven U.S. covert operations. And bending banking regulations to the benefit of U.S. and foreign elites has been standard practice. Thus, it should be no surprise that, despite questionable legality, both the National Security Agency (NSA) and the CIA already engage in extensive economic intelligence activities wherever U.S. national security interests are perceived to be at risk.

The practice of using existing U.S. intelligence agencies to gather economic and financial data through traditional spy methods was given a boost by the Reagan administration. Incoming CIA Director William Casey's national security credentials were matched by his business background. Casey had been chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Undersecretary of State for economic affairs, and Import‑Export Bank President. He ordered the Agency's once modest

National Collection Division (NCD) to recruit major corporate executives abroad to gather proprietary information on foreign businesses and the trade and economic policies of foreign governments. This move made the NCD the largest information gathering program within the Agency's operations directorate. By 1984, more than 150 corporations were providing cover for CIA people overseas.

CONTINUED (via Waybac -- if it gives problems, PM me for article) ...

http://web.archive.org/web/20090321024311/http://covertaction.org/content/view/142/75



FDR would put a stop to the nonsense. Plus, he'd know what to do to get America moving forward for ALL Americans.

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:26 PM
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10. CIA=Wall Street. Wall Street=CIA.
Thanks Octafish, that link did work for me and it's great. Always good to keep searching for BCCI dirt, doesn't surprise me that the Fed shredded all the BCCI-CIA files. I have no doubt that one of the reasons for the shenanigans in Ohio in 2004 was because of Kerry's BCCI investigation.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:13 PM
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3. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:09 AM
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6. Most of the wealth in history has, somehow, ended up in the pockets of GOP fatcats and friends.
"In 1985, the top five percent of the households, wealthiest five percent, had net worth of $8 trillion, which is a lot. Today, after serial bubble after serial bubble, the top five percent have net worth of $40 trillion," he explained. "The top five percent have gained more wealth than the whole human race had created prior to 1980." -- David Stockman

SOURCE: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/28/60minutes/main6999906_page4.shtml

And to think there are kids in America who would go to bed hungry every night if they had one.

Thanks, WillyT, for giving a damn.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:28 PM
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8. I care
so do many in Europe and the rest of the world.

All this Reagan supply side bullshit infected not just the US but the rest of the world.

The Banksters love it and they are not American companies, European Companies they are just International companies that don't give a SHIT except the bottom line for them...

Goldman Sachs? ....... Ford..... GM........ Microsoft.... they don't give a fuck about the US, Asia,South America, Europe or Africa

Only the Cayman Islands.......LOL and Luxembourg.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:41 PM
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9. K&R
:kick:
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