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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:17 AM
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Michelle Obama denies supporting gay marriage
Source: Politco

First lady Michelle Obama’s office on Tuesday quickly shot down the suggestion that she has ever publicly voiced support for same-sex marriage, a policy her husband opposes even as the left pressures him to take a stand.

“Mrs. Obama has never made any public statements about same-sex marriage,” her communications director, Kristina Schake, said in an email to POLITICO.

The response comes after former New Jersey Gov. Jim McGreevey, a Democrat, suggested Monday night on CNN that Barack and Michelle Obama may not have the same opinion about gay marriage. McGreevey said of the president: “If he could only listen to Michelle more often” when it comes to his stance on same-sex marriage.

McGreevey, who is now openly gay, gave up the governorship in 2004 after revealing that he’d had an affair with a man.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57923.html



Straddling the fence may be electorally sound for 2012, but it is painful to hear.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:18 AM
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1. OTOH, she isn't on record as against it like Michelle Bachmann.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:25 AM
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4. Obama is also on record as being against it.
From the campaign in 2008:
"Obama told MTV he believes marriage is "between a man and a woman" and that he is "not in favor of gay marriage."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/11/obama-on-mtv-i.html
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:59 AM
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13. So what?
She is still opposed to gay marriage - regardless of how you split the hair.


So disappointed in the Obamas. I should be old enough to know that all politicians are basically the same - opportunistic animals that will do what it takes to keep the gravy train rolling.


On the other hand - the 1st Lady should be able to rise above politics and state what is right. I am saddened that this wonderful woman (still got mad love for her and the President - just disappointed) would not stand up for what is right.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:20 AM
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18. Um, yes she is.
No better than Bachmann.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:23 AM
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2. Well, God forbid anyone might think that she supports marriage equality.
Thanks for clearing that up, Michelle.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:24 AM
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3. So, Michelle Supports Dull, Grim, Unhappy Marriages?
To each his or her own...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:25 AM
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5. huh?
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:50 AM
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9. :)
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:23 PM
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30. +1. n/t
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:28 AM
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6. During the campaign in 08, Michelle was very vocal in her praise
for "ex-gay" hate preacher Donnie McClurkin, known to many as the man who called for open warfare against gay people during a 700 Club appearance, accusing gay people of 'trying to kill our children'.
So we know where she stands.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:42 AM
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8. But we're not supposed to remember that! n/t
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:41 AM
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7. O boy... I wonder how persons who have the advantage to meet people all over the world, can carry a
more narrow view on what equality means... A study of african studies and law should broaden ones knowledge and lead one to know that ones differences should not block them from equal rights...
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:51 AM
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10. Will she feel the same way if someday she finds out one or both
of her children are gay?

What kind of parents would take their own children's rights away?

I'm a hairsbreadth from making a decision to not vote for Obama right now.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:04 AM
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15. "has made no statement"
is not indication of stating she is opposed to it. As noted in a post above, during the 2008 campaign she did make a statement that apparently approved of eliminating both DOMA and DADT.

In today's political climate, anything the president OR the first lady says is immediately opposed by the (R)s. Keeping quiet is a smarter way to see it move forward.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:08 AM
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16. See, that is nonsense 'keeping quite moves it forward'?
Offensive bullshit. Silence = Death. Knowledge = Life. That is a phrase famous in the history of our community. And they have not kept quiet, he says he's against equality because they are Christians, they both anointed one of the most hate filled 'ministers' of the disgraceful 'ex gay movement' as surrogate, and both defended the vicious words that man is infamous for. That is not 'keeping quiet' that is being on the other side of history.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 07:46 AM
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38. So you would prefer
that both the president and the first lady speak out in support of marriage equality which would immediately signal Republicans who may be leaning toward that opinion to strongly oppose it. Have you missed the truth that Republicans oppose anything that comes even close to being supported by this president? Is that more acceptable to you? In this political atmosphere, knowledge of where the president stands may actually be more of a death knell than silence is.

He may be personally opposed to marriage equality, but he has governed otherwise. Oh, and btw...Christians are not automatically opposed to equality. Far from it.

I was disappointed with his choice of homophobe McClurken to "preside" at his inauguration as well, but I have not seen any "surrogacy" from him since then. I assume that it is he to whom you are referring?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:05 AM
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24. Yes, keeping quiet about equal human rights and/or opposing them is definitely the prudent way to go
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:06 PM
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34. There's an election coming up, you know!
And then there's an election after that one, and an election after that one....
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 07:55 AM
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39. I did not say
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 07:58 AM by polmaven
anything anywhere near
opposing them is definitely the prudent way to go
. Please do not put words in my mouth. If you think that an endorsement from the president will not effect the cause adversely, you haven't been listening. The Republicans will oppose anything this president endorses. Is that what you would prefer?
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:52 AM
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11. so analyzing her own words... do the math
her public statement:

“Barack believes that we must fight for the world as it should be, a world where together we work to reverse discriminatory laws like DOMA and ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’” she said at a 2008 fundraiser. “The world as it is should be one that rejects discrimination of all kinds.”

____

today's math problem:

if:

variable: Barack = 'fight for world as it should be'
variable: 'as it should be' = rejects discrimination of all kinds
variable: DOMA = 'discriminatory law'

- THEN -

Barack and Michelle believe DOMA should be rejected

______


I say, technically she has made a public statement about same-sex marriage...



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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:04 AM
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14. If words are math, then like numbers they have specific meaning
and just like in math, one always must use the most direct and elegant equation. Add to that the fact that the Obamas base their religious objections to equality on a faith that demands unerring exactitude in speech, forbids spin of any sort, and puts absolute responsibility on the speaker to speak clearly, the very idea of proposing that a string of nonsense words adds up to support is starkly hypocritical and also just false.
Equal is equal. Bullshit is bullshit.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:08 AM
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25. I get 2 + 2 = trying to have it every which way.
He's no Franklin and she's no Eleanor.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:56 AM
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:19 AM
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17. If a Republican said that
She'd be criticized heavily. But since it is St. Michelle, many on here will give her a free pass.


I won't.


FUCK HER AND HER BIGOTRY. SHE AND HER BIGOTED HUSBAND CAN GO TO HELL.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:32 PM
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33. $100 says he was pressured
by some goons in the white house to make that statement. Sometimes I wonder how so many African americans with full knowlege of he struggles we have endured want to deny other of the right to marry.

This is just sad
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:31 AM
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19. that is a disappointingly cowardly statement
“Mrs. Obama has never made any public statements about same-sex marriage,”

:puke:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:34 AM
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21. Cowardly -
the only word for it. :puke:
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:00 AM
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22. Thanks for summing it up for me.
C'est assez.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:09 AM
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26. I have another. Selfish.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:32 AM
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20. Technically, she denies publicly stating that she supports same-sex marriage.
But, yes, "straddling the fence" is an accurate description.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:19 PM
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29. I really wish they would get off the fence on this issue
I realize they are trying to appease both sides of the fence but they need to make a choice. I think the benefit of having the GLBT community strongly supporting you in the elections would far outweigh the votes he might lose if the Obamas came out in support of marriage equality.

I mean the states that would most oppose a pro-marriage equality stance probably wouldn't go for Obama in the first place.

Get off the damn fence.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:04 AM
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23. Yuck. Like I care what she thinks anyway.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:10 AM
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27. well thanks for your opinion Michelle
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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:14 PM
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28. Even if that was true
what's the problem with adding, "but the First Lady does support equal rights and believes everyone should have equal access to marriage and its benefits"?

One is more important than the other and should be emphasized. Should it be really, "We never said we'd support same-sex marriage"?


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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:26 PM
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31. Hot topic. Election season. Must not touch it.
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 02:30 PM by nc4bo
Sad when our politicians are so afraid of what the idiot section of the country thinks (and the TPTB can hold against them later on) and can't drop a bit of truth, that we all have the same rights, privileges and how wrong it is to deny any citizen those rights and privileges.

ETA: Then we have people like Clarence Thomas' queen teabagging wife who can parade around & start teabag chapters with no fear of any repercussions.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:30 PM
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32. The Obama children are getting to an age where they will have opinions on this.
Very difficult to be the President's family. I bet they all favor marriage equality and don't want to make him look like a bigot.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:55 PM
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35. So she's to the right of Laura Bush
great.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:57 PM
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36. And Cindy McCain as well.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:45 PM
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37. Crappy title. That's not the gist of this piece.
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 10:50 PM by AtomicKitten
TITLE: Michelle Obama denies supporting gay marriage.
ACTUAL REPORTING: First Lady Michelle Obama's office blah blah 'shot down the suggestion' that she has publicly voiced support for same-sex marriage.
FILLER: The rest of the piece is editorial codswallop.
CONCLUSION: Sloppy journalism aka: horseshit from Politico.

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