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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:12 PM
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EXCLUSIVE: Poland to vote on historic bill banning all abortions after massive grassroots campaign
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WARSAW, Poland, June 28, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - After months of shielding the initiative from English media, organizers of a massive pro-life grassroots campaign in Poland have now told LifeSiteNews.com that Parliamentarians in the country are preparing to vote this week on an historic bill that would enshrine total protection for children in the womb from the moment of conception.

The organizers told LSN that they were worried that if the news broke in the English-speaking world, pro-abortion foreign powers would have poured money into the country to oppose their popular efforts.

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“This project is a chance to finally reject the heritage of Nazism and Communism which brought ‘legal abortion’ to Poland in the first place,” Jacek Sapa of the PRO Foundation told LifeSiteNews. “It was Hitler and Stalin who imposed it on Poles and it’s high time we clearly disassociate ourselves from those deadly ideologies.”

“The Church clearly teaches that it is the obligation of Catholics not to protect the current ‘compromise’ but to aim at complete protection of life,” said Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, former personal assistant to Blessed John Paul II, in an interview for Gosc Niedzielny, Poland’s largest opinion weekly. “This is a solution, which the Church calls for. I support all efforts aiming at improving the protection of human life.”


http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-poland-to-vote-on-historic-bill-banning-all-abortions-after-massiv





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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:14 PM
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1. K & R, sadly.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:15 PM
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2. If Poland is a member of the EU
this is not going to sit well in Brussels. The EU tends to frown on these sorts of denials of human rights to half the population.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 06:06 PM
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18. Sadly, that's not the case
The EU hasn't enforced common abortion laws; see here for the position at 2007: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6235557.stm

Note that it is already illegal in Malta, though Wikipedia says they may decide not to prosecute if the woman's life is definitely at risk.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:16 PM
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3. Fascism is on the march
taking away women's rights is a marker of fascism... ironic I now for Poland since that is one thing they did fight against.

Oh and this will continue to spread around the world... and women, who are less than equal citizens, will pay with their lives. I guess that is a proper payment to protect the fetus... and if it happens to be female, well, it is less than equal.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:17 PM
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4. 'complete protection of life'.... except a woman's life of course. because
women's lives don't matter. just baby factories.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:18 PM
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6. or any "enemy" in any Proxy Wars they want to attend. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:17 PM
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5. Let's guess how many Polish have been threatened with denial of the sacraments or
even excommunication.
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LadyHawkAZ Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:36 PM
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7. Already went thru this in Romania w/ Ceausescu
ironically, under Communism...not gonna end well...
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:59 PM
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10. Child explotation, disease and death to follow.
Sigh.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:04 PM
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:57 PM
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9. Fetuses will still be terminated --
but there will now be a bunch of dead woman to go along with them. :mad:
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:25 PM
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17. See my 19.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:07 PM
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11. So they escaped the Soviet Union only to be slaves to the Catholics?
Fuck Poland.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:18 PM
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12. Aging countries tend to try to ban abortion and contraception
Italy's going through the same thing.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:29 PM
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13. Hey! Anti-choice fuckwads of Poland! Listen up!
I am not "pro-abortion", you sick fucks. You, on the other hand, exemplify the worst part of the Nazis and Communists you decry: lack of tolerance and allowing people to. make. choices. for. themselves. Fuck you times Pantera and the Catholic Church can piss up a rope, too, just for good measure. Goose-step somewhere else.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:41 PM
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14. Let's not get carried away here
The 'worst part of the Nazis and Communists' was not the lack of tolerance for allowing people to make choices, though that certainly was a very bad thing. The worst part was the tens of millions of innocent dead and this is not the same as that by a long shot.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:02 PM
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15. What I meant was
that disabling of free choice enabled them to commit the atrocities they did. Sorry for the confusion.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 08:21 AM
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19. True
Killing millions does require a basic disrespect for personal freedoms. Interestingly both the Soviets and Germans (as well as other interwar European states) had pro-natal policies, including things like 'hero mother' awards for having lots of children. Though those were less about limiting personal freedoms and more about providing incentives for demographic health with an eye toward increasing national power.

Of course now is when Europe really needs demographic help, which I suspect is part of the reasoning behind this Polish abortion proposal (not that it will work).
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:25 PM
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16. I predict massive increase in tourism from Poland to Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary,
Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania, all of it women from the ages of 14-42
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 08:40 AM
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20. heritage of Nazism and Communism????? So ban everything after say 1938
like cars
computers
tv sets
video games
cell phones (well maybe)

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 08:43 AM
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22. The Communists allowed abortion.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 08:42 AM
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21. There is no "child... in the womb" at conception.
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Eyerish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 09:20 AM
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23. K&R
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