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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:36 PM
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The present-day brand of conservatives have no committment to democracy.
Think about their level of support for government.

The Fed can do no wrong when their own are in charge.

Okay, yes, we can be like that, too. But how many of us on this side discuss "2nd Amendment remedies" when our side gets whomped in the electoral process? Sure, we may talk about impeachment and indictment, but those are all ways *within the system* to deal with the issues at hand.

Modern day 'baggers only use the system insofar as it will help them dismantle the system. Interestingly, that was a charge they leveled at the American left back in the 50s and 60s, so they're just projecting once again.

Ultimately, the new breed of American conservative is neither patriotic nor sensible and hates everything that America stands for, even while wrapping himself in the flag whose meaning he is helping to desecrate.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:39 PM
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1. And IMO they are the real terrorists and the ones we should really be afraid of. Too many
Americans IMO just think things will continue along fine.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:44 PM
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2. They have for years been deliberately
conflating democracy and capitalism. They profess to the former, but believe only in the latter. And I guess they hope they've got enough people confused for them to get away with it.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:47 PM
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3. No goal except power
Any argumentation or method to obtain it. If Conservatism is heart, mind, action and soul filled with this, the word itself is damned.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:47 PM
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4. They may be "conservative", but they certainly aren't conservative.
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 03:50 PM by Faryn Balyncd



They are against every fundamental American value.


They aren't for conserving ANYthing.


Simply put, they are fascists.


There is no more truthful label for them.





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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 03:49 PM
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5. "Present day"?
Conservatives have always been about reviving feudalism. When have they ever favored democracy?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:09 PM
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6. And no commitment to conserve.
For that matter, no commitment to conservatism.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:12 PM
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7. Present day conservatives have lost their humanity.
Simple as that.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:12 PM
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8. their commitment to business ethics as opposed to public service ethics garantees
a total mismatch. Let's get rid of the "run govt like a business" meme. It is the opposite of what govt should be.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:14 PM
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9. Once they realized that democracy truly means equal rights for
all, and everyone, everyone (!) gets a vote, that they just can't pay lip service to it anymore, combined with the changing demographics of America, all bets were off. Their true nature came crawling out.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:26 PM
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10. Their agenda is to take down this country through legislative treason.
Taking down the country from the inside instead of from the outside. people better understand what is really going on here and stop allowing republicans to divide and split up the middle-class. Once they take down the institution of Democracy, there will be no going back.
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MemeSmith Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:24 AM
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11. No-one who believes in conservatism...

No person or organisation who believes in conservatism can afford to believe in democracy.

True democracy, true representation of the will of the people, would deliver an almost entirely left wing political outcome in the United States, with curbs on corporate excess, sexual freedom and equality, and healthcare for all, free at the point of use, among others.

Furthermore, the demographic timebomb under conservatism make clear that this is their last generation. These are the last years when conservatives in the US are even close to electoraal success on the issues. They have to lie, they have to terrify, they have to suppress voters and ultimately they have to steal elections.

After this age, even those distortions will not enable them to suppress the inevitable victory of freedom in the US. Conservatives will be forced to overthrow democracy by force, or face the fact of the inevitable historic narrative of the relentless liberalisation of human society.
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