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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:38 PM
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CNN: Floodwaters closing in on Ft. Calhoun nuclear plant , 10 Mile evacuation ordered + much more
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 04:48 PM by stockholmer
http://kezi.com/news/local/216505

FORT CALHOUN, Neb. — Flood waters are close to reaching a nuclear power plant in Nebraska. <...>

Officials were concerned about the deep water around the facility that was caused by the historic flooding of the Missouri River. <...>

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ABC 8 Lincoln, NE, June 27, 2011:

At :47 in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE7g-zEClwk&feature=player_embedded

Jaczko says even though there was a 10 mile evacuation around the plant, there is no immediate threat to the plants reactor.

NOW



SEVERAL DAYS AGO



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ESVDI2OQZ4&feature=player_embedded

Gundersen: Intake Structure that cools reactor and spent fuel pool is probably most vulnerable part of Ft. Calhoun nuke plan — Critical that it stays dry (VIDEO)


Arnie Gundersen on Five O’clock Shadow with Robert Knight, WBAI, June 28, 2011 at 5:00 pm EDT:

Intake structure probably the most vulnerable, not auxiliary and containment buildings…
Intake structure draws in river water that cools reactor and spent fuel pool… critical that it stay dry…
If gets water in it and emergency service water pumps fail then you’ve got a case where you’re going to cause fuel damage…
Probably the most vulnerable at Ft Calhoun…
See also: May 16 report foreshadowed yesterday’s “


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13937781

Concern that drums filled with plutonium-contaminated waste at Los Alamos could burst from fire’s heat

“The concern is that these drums will get so hot that they’ll burst. That would put this toxic material into the plume. It’s a concern for everybody,” Joni Arends, executive director of Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety, told the Associated Press. <...>


http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-alamos-fire-epa-testing-radiation/story?id=13953953

<...> “It contains approximately 20,000 barrels of nuclear waste,” former top security official Glen Walp said. “It’s not contained within a concrete, brick and mortar-type building, but rather in a sort of fabric-type building that a fire could easily consume.

“Potential is high for a major calamity if the fire would reach these areas,” he added. <...>


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http://www.volunteertv.com/national/headlines/Wildfire_closes_in_on_Los_Alamos_124698004.html


Fire Chief at Los Alamos: “God I hope not… God I hope not” — “I seriously think it will be up to 100,000 acres”

<...> Dangerous flames inch ever-closer to the Los Alamos National Lab- fueling more concerns of a possible disaster.

A major concern is that out of control wildfires may reach thousands of containers with Plutonium-contaminated waste in them.

But authorities at the lab say the containers are safe for now, while they continue to monitor the air for any sign of radiation.

Fire Chief Doug Tucker says, “I seriously think it will be up to 100 thousand acres, God I hope not God I hope not. There is unburnt fuel out there.” <...>

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http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2011/06/29/abqnewsseeker/updated-las-conchas-fire-now-3-percent-contained.html


Wildfire expected to grow “indefinitely” — Firefighters said yesterday was a “make or break day” but fire has refused to be tamed


Las Conchas Fire Now 3 Percent Contained, Albuquerque Journal, June 29, 2011:

<...> The Albuquerque Journal’s Phil Parker reported from Los Alamos this morning that the campfire smell in town was the strongest there since the fire began on Sunday. <...>

Firefighters had looked to Tuesday as a “make or break day” in their struggle to keep the fast-growing fire from the now-nearly deserted city of 12,000, but the fire refused to be tamed <...>

Deputy incident commander Mike Bradley said Tuesday he expects the Las Conchas Fire to grow indefinitely <...>

And weather forecasters are saying that firefighters battling blazes near Los Alamos and elsewhere in northern New Mexico can expect more of the same troubling weather today — hot, dry and windy conditions <...>


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http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/towns-near-nm-fire-nuclear-lab-wary-of-1568836.html


Residents worried about radioactive smoke plume if fire reaches radioactive waste: “If it gets to this contamination, it’s over — not just for Los Alamos, but for Santa Fe”


Residents downwind of a wildfire that is threatening the nation’s premier nuclear-weapons laboratory are worried about the potential of a radioactive smoke plume if the flames reach thousands of barrels of waste stored in above-ground tents.

“If it gets to this contamination, it’s over — not just for Los Alamos, but for Santa Fe and all of us in between,” said Mai Ting, a resident who lives in the valley below the desert mesas that are home to the Los Alamos National Laboratory.


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http://www.action3news.com/category/170799/video-landing-page?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=5998200&flvUri&partnerclipid


Local TV: Water has leaked into building containing radioactive material at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant — “That water we treat as radioactive waste” (VIDEO)

Action 3 News, June 28, 2011:

At :40 in

We store radioactive material in that building. There is some minor water leakage into the building, and that water we treat as radioactive waste.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwhG1xOIkEE&feature=player_embedded

Report: Radioactive tritium very close to Los Alamos fire, about half a mile away — Lab would be the last to tell you if there was a serious problem (VIDEO)

Starts at 4:15 in

<...> GREG MELLO : Well, Los Alamos National Laboratory is the—in funding terms, it’s the main nuclear warhead facility of the United States. There is a lot of plutonium there. There’s tritium—actually, tritium very close to the fire, about half a mile from the fire. Part of the problem is there’s an information deficit, and there’s a serious trust deficit. You can’t really take anything that the laboratory says at face value. It’s kind of a minimum—you know, they’d be the last to tell you if there was a serious problem. So you have to piece it together from other information. And that’s—Los Alamos Lab is becoming the center of plutonium manufacture for the country. <...>

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/28/us-japan-nuclear-idUSTRE75Q1EV20110628

Japan ‘discovers’ tons of radioactive water have been leaking into ground at Fukushima

Tons of radioactive water were discovered on Tuesday to have leaked into the ground from Japan’s Fukushima nuclear plant, the latest in a series of leaks at the plant damaged in a March earthquake and tsunami, the country’s nuclear watchdog said. <...>


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http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2011/06/sakem_unit_2_nuclear_reactor_s.html


Cooling pump fails at New Jersey nuclear reactor, plant shut down — Remains in ‘hot shutdown’


The Salem Unit 2 nuclear plant remained shut down this afternoon following a problem with a reactor coolant pump, according to a spokesman for the plant’s operator. <...>


The cause of the pump failure is still being investigated, according to Delmar. The plant functioned as designed, he said.

The plant remained in “hot shutdown” mode this afternoon. <...>

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http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201106280231.html

Anti-nuclear proposals shot down at shareholders' meetings of utilities

Angry shareholders lashed out at Tokyo Electric Power Co. on June 28, demanding a retreat from nuclear power and the chairman's resignation over the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

But at the end of the TEPCO shareholders' meeting, attended by a record number of people, motions to cease operations and decommission reactors were voted down, and Chairman Tsunehisa Katsumata retained his post.

Three other electric utilities had similar experiences at their shareholders' meetings, with questions raised about nuclear safety but with the status quo remaining largely intact.

Anti-nuclear groups rallied around the Tokyo hotel where TEPCO's meeting was held, foreshadowing the complaints that would be heard inside.

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http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/feature/20110316-866921/news/20110629-OYT1T00953.htm

Tellurium-129m Detected First Time Near Water Intake Outside Fukushima Daiichi Reactor 1

translation:

TEPCO 29, from seawater collected in the morning four days this month near the intake of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 1, a radioactive substance "Tellurium 129m" announced the first detection.

Been detected nuclides New Past 3 months after the accident, the suspect and the discharge of contaminated water at high levels TEPCO "When the water or not it was contaminated for any reason. Radioactive material other Since no change in the detection of an abnormal situation occurs that such leaks of contaminated water is not considered "trying to.

In addition, TEPCO On June 29, the top floor of the Unit 4 reactor building (5th floor) into workers, and conducted preparatory work for installing the temporary cooling system circulating spent nuclear fuel storage pool. After the nuclear accident, the worker enters the top floor of the reactor building of Unit 1 to 4 for the first time. Result of measuring the dose on the fifth floor, and found no problem if the scope of work quickly.


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So much for the containment inside of Reactor 1. This week Te-129m was detected in seawater was detected for the first time. Tellurium likely leaked with water that was injected into reactor 1. Te-129m has a half-life of 33.6 days and is one of the most deadly isotopes from a melt-down. Tellurium 129 presence is definitive proof of recriticality At Fukushima.




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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:45 PM
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1. Wouldn't it be cool if there was a nuclear disaster here?
Then all my criticisms of nuclear power would be validated!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:55 PM
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4. Yep. Nuclear disasters are caused by anti-nuke protesters.....
As bad as not clapping for Tinkerbell.
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Ice Number Nine Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:56 PM
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6. wouldn't it be cooler if nuclear energy didn't have the side-effect of killing us?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:35 PM
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29. Save for the little problem that it doesn't kill us.
Civilian nuclear power has never created a casualty in the US. Which you can't say of the 40,000 people a year who get killed by the air pollution coal-fired electricity creates.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:55 PM
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31. yes,coal is cleaner than it used to be, but still is shite,HOWEVER nuclear has killed US citizens
3 Mile Island has caused dramtic increases in cancers in the region.

Three Mile Island Cancer "Extremely High"

http://www.albionmonitor.com/9703a/3milecancer.html

the study

http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info%3Adoi%2F10.1289%2Fehp.9710552
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:11 PM
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10. Totally.
Just like we all rooted for long, drawn out, unsuccessful wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to validate our pro-peace stance.

:crazy:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:37 PM
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:45 PM
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2. Well, there's a depressing compilation
Taken as a whole, it's more nuke news in one post than I've seen for quite a while.

One interesting thing is that the Tellurium news isn't showing up on searches. What's up with that?
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:55 PM
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5. google the word below (Japanese for Tellurium 129)
テルル129

it is amazing how hard it is to get info these days, the news clamp-down is tightening

:(
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:57 PM
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7. Made my stomach turn reading through it but most of stockholmer's posts have the same effect
No offense to stockholmer because God knows he does an EXCELLENT job gathering all information together into 1 easy to find post.

@stockholmer (and other DU informers) :patriot:

They keep saying don't worry, be happy. That's when I start wanting to retch.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:19 PM
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12. Try to Google plutonium once
Better get you virus program updated first though.

Don
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:52 PM
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3. Oops, did you forget to add that the sky is falling?
and that it's all Obama's fault?
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:57 PM
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8. what is your point? are you suggesting that 'all is fine in nuke land'?
:shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:23 PM
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15. Oh we know the Fukushima Daichi plant is running
at peak efficiency... in a parallel universe... Problem is the nearest Type I universe is so far away we cannot fathom it, and with inflation getting farther away as I type
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:31 PM
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17. Some of these disaster-porn types have a sick desire to see a massive tragedy here
It's like a fetish.

If the world were not so good at producing legitimate spectacles of human tragedy, I might worry about their disappointment when the waters recede and nothing terrible has happened - but by then I'm sure they can find some genuine suffering elsewhere.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 06:04 PM
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22. yeah this is disaster porn
:eyes:
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:36 PM
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30. thats it! anyone who has been against nuclear power for years has a bad case of schadenfreude!
:puke:
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 04:59 PM
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9. Twenty thousand people live within 10 miles of Ft. Calhoun. Where did they all go?
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 05:01 PM by Brickbat
The newscaster blew it. The feds require every plant to have a 10-mile evacuation zone where it is recommended that populations not grow, because of the difficulty in evacuation in the event of an emergency. It's called the evacuation zone. Every plant has one, and that's what the NRC guy was referring to. They have not evacuated 20,000 people from around Ft. Calhoun, and no evacuation has been ordered.

You might want to change your subject line. Unrec for inaccurate fearmongering.
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Thegonagle Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:29 PM
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16. Interesting, and absoultely ignored in my state if true.
During the boom, the area around (and just east of) the Fukushima-style Monticello Nuclear Generating Plant in Minnesota was among the fastest growing areas in the state.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 06:00 PM
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21. Yup.
I'm in your state. :hi:
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:14 PM
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11. Seriously, change that OP head while you still can -- no evacuation has been ordered.
Jayzus H.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:38 PM
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19. Apparently truth and/or accuracy are not priorities of the OP.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 06:04 PM
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23. It's supper time in a lot of places, I get that. But I find it amazing that people think it's
possible to have a news blackout about an evacuation, and didn't think to double-check that. It's shameful and irresponsible.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:21 PM
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27. I stand by my OP's, as this is the first time (if we are to believe Brickbat and you) that anything
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 07:22 PM by stockholmer
out of hundreds of articles has been shown to be a misstated report. I am not a Nebraska newscaster, so the error is on her.

As for 'disaster porn', you either are suffering from normalcy bias, cognitive dissonance, or simply are a corporate news believer. The Fukushima disaster is having a tremendous deleterious impact on people worldwide, and well over 400,000 (at a minimum) will die from radiation-caused cancers over the next 10 to 15 years. The entire weight of the nuclear industry and the corporate media, will, of course, ignore, belittle, intimidate, sue, attack, disparage, deny, obfuscate, publish whitewashed studies from bought-and-paid-for academics. This happened with Chernobyl, and will happen here too.

The onus is on people saying there is nothing going on to prove this, not the other way around. I will not be silenced. My country, Sweden, has had a significant rise in cancer rates (in Norrbotten especially) directly linked to Chernobyl. and at the time, all the leading authorities said not to worry. Well, we as planet should worry, and should shut down ALL uranium nuke plants ASAP. The waste we have already piled up is the bane of humanity for thousands of years, let alone new disasters.


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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:15 PM
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34. "The onus is on people saying there is nothing going on to prove this, not the other way around."
Just had to type that excellent point out one more time--for those who may have missed it.

:applause: stockholmer
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 08:08 AM
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36. What, prove that there isn't an evacuation of 20,000 people going on right now?
:rofl:
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:07 PM
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24. well, I was just going off what the news said at 47 seconds into video, I live in Sweden, not
Nebraska, and thanks for clearing this up. This is one of the reasons that an internet forum like this is good, as inaccurate reports can be dispelled.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:15 PM
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26. The size alone of the supposed "evacuation" zone should give anyone pause.
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 07:17 PM by Brickbat
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:32 PM
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28. if things go truly FUBAR there, 10 miles will seem like a small zone
Lets all hope for the best!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:21 PM
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13. Ah yes, how it goes? WATCH WHAT THEY DO....
there is no problem... so why the hell have a 10 mile evacuation?

Like air borne sniffers to NM... sorry if this raises to the level of ahem... CONCERN...

(Nor do I expect the media to tell us the truth, or the industry... or rather not until it is too late)

Oh and wait, reactor in Mass in trouble too?

Where did I place them dancing bunnies?



Ah much better
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:22 PM
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14. THERE IS NO 10 MILE EVACUATION.
There is no evacuation, period.

I LIVE here.

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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:08 PM
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25. see my reply link below in this post, thanks for clearing this up
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:19 PM
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33. Seems like half of DU is secretly wishing doom on you
to validate their energy opinions. Sigh.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 06:00 PM
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20. I'm WATCHING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, and they're not evacuating.
For an expert, you sure fall easily.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:12 PM
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32. There is no ahem. . . EVACUATION.
Where did I put them Chicken Littles?

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:42 PM
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35. Um, I'm no expert but that doesn't look good...
...correct me if I'm wrong though, I heard that a temporary barrier had failed, but that the flood water was receding? Is that not correct?
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