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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 03:55 PM
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Because of Constitution Error North Dakota Is Not A State (and never has been)
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/14/because-of-constitution-error-north-dakota-is-not-a-state-and-never-has-been/?hpt=hp_t2


A constitutional error recently discovered shows that North Dakota has never technically fit the requirements for statehood.
John Rolczynski, an 82-year old Grand Forks resident, discovered the error in 1995 and has been been campaigning to fix North Dakota's constitution ever since. The problem lies in the state constitution's omission in requiring the governor and other top officials to take an oath of office. In failing to require these oaths, North Dakota's constitution is at odds with federal requirements established by Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, therefore making statehood illegitimate.

After nearly 16 years of fighting to change the constitution, Rolczynski may finally see his goal accomplished: Senator Tim Mathern of Fargo introduced a bill this spring that would fix the error.



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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:01 PM
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1. Wait a minute! Not so fast! Do we want them?
;-)
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:08 PM
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2. Well, now's the grand opportunity to change their name then...
Wasn't that all the rage a few years back with residents thinking NORTH Dakota makes them sound "cold and inhospitable".... LOL
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:22 PM
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4. They could call themselves South Hawaii
and it would still be cold and inhospitable there. :(
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:10 PM
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3. It should be simply Dakota.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:39 PM
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5. Recombine ND & SD? Bring on Puerto Rico to become the new 50th state?
I guess one or both could happen, but....
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:14 PM
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7. I'm thinking only one needs the locator.
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:39 PM
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6. Well, what an interesting twist...
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 04:39 PM by catabryna
If North Dakota has never been a state, then a whole bunch of my dead family members where never US citizens. lol!

edited for typo
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:23 PM
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8. That doesn't make much sense. The Constitution requires the executive to take the oath.
It doesn't require the state to require the executive to take the oath.

If anything, the executive officials of North Dakota have simply always been in violation of the Constitution (assuming the oath wasn't taken).
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fivepennies Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:32 PM
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9. Don't be chumps
..Political MoJo.How the Nation’s Only State-Owned Bank Became the Envy of Wall Street
— By Josh Harkinson

The Bank of North Dakota is the only state-owned bank in America—what Republicans might call an idiosyncratic bastion of socialism. It also earned a record profit last year even as its private-sector corollaries lost billions. To be sure, it owes some of its unusual success to North Dakota’s well-insulated economy, which is heavy on agricultural staples and light on housing speculation. But that hasn’t stopped out-of-state politicos from beating a path to chilly Bismarck in search of advice. Could opening state-owned banks across America get us out of the financial crisis? It certainly might help, says Ellen Brown, author of the book, Web of Debt, who writes that the Bank of North Dakota, with its $4 billion under management, has avoided the credit freeze by “creating its own credit, leading the nation in establishing state economic sovereignty.” Mother Jones spoke with the Bank of North Dakota’s president, Eric Hardmeyer.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2009/03/how-nation%E2%80%99s-only-state-owned-bank-became-envy-wall-street

How the hell many times do people need to see this before it clicks in. This is the second time in two days I've posted this little factoid to refute the claims of non-statehood.

Success? Can't have it. Shut it down.


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