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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:43 PM
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How are we ever going to raise taxes for the wealthy when we have a repub majority
in congress that won't allow that type of tax bill to pass? Now I understand that Obama is not going to get his tax revenues in the debt ceiling raised. It kind of makes me sick.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:45 PM
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1. The Bush tax cuts would have expired if Congress and the President had done nothing. n/t
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:47 PM
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2. They only do nothing when its the poor who need help
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:59 PM
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5. Bullshit. Pres. Obama compromised in order to extend UI to long-term unemployed.
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 11:04 PM by ClarkUSA
He obviously cares more for "the poor" than many who attack him and ignore everything else Pres. Obama has done (HCR, Wall Street reform, credit card reform, the first homeless initiative in decades, etc.).
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:46 PM
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13. Funny how progressives gloss over that fact. Republicans were hostage
taking with the future of many americans to keep food on their tables and stay in their homes. President Obama's back was against the wall, the only choice that he had was to trade off the tax cuts for maintenance of UE benefits for unemployed americans. Progressives, and sockpuppets that seem to be pulling their strings now shout about President Obama leaving tax cuts for the wealthy and how that will make them not vote for democrats. Will they ever fucking learn? Of course, I do not expect sockpuppets to learn, their objective is to cause confusion and mis-directed anger.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:15 PM
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18. Exactly. I couldn't agree more.
<< Funny how progressives gloss over that fact. Republicans were hostage taking with the future of many americans to keep food on their tables and stay in their homes. President Obama's back was against the wall, the only choice that he had was to trade off the tax cuts for maintenance of UE benefits for unemployed americans. Progressives, and sockpuppets that seem to be pulling their strings now shout about President Obama leaving tax cuts for the wealthy and how that will make them not vote for democrats. Will they ever fucking learn? Of course, I do not expect sockpuppets to learn, their objective is to cause confusion and mis-directed anger. >>

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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:11 PM
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7. Obama let them have it so he could keep unemployment benefits
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:22 PM
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9. yeah, whatever.
that's what Obama-apologists usually claim.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:47 PM
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14. It is true. Benefits were extended by the deal. They would not have
been otherwise.
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judgegblue Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:24 PM
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10. By making it plain and simple that the majority are being screwed
by the unfair tax structure. This will not be easy since the right wing propaganda machine is in high gear telling the public that tax breaks for the wealthy are somehow in our best interest. Progressive leaders, especially the Pres, have to stay on topic and appeal directly to the people. Quit trying to deal with the right, they are never going to act in good faith, only on behalf of their wealthy sponsors in corporate America.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:52 PM
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3. I guess the same way we did with a Democratic majority.
Reagan shoved his agenda through against Democratic majorities, how did he do it?
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:58 PM
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4. He got people to call up their representatives and yell at them. n/t
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:16 PM
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8. Then that is what we have to do. Someone smarter than me has to get
over these greedy money mongers.
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Hand_With_Eyes Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:01 PM
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6. By letting the Bush tax cuts expire
They dont have to do anything
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:56 PM
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15. What has to happen is the economy has to be made to start growing.
Republicans are so intent on strangling the economy because they realize that if it is growing measurably, their house of cards collapses. A growing economy re-elects President Obama in a walk. A growing economy ushers in more democrats in Congress. A growing economy takes unemployment benefits off the table as a bargaining chip for republicans to prevent expiration of Bush tax cuts. A growing economy means that President Obama has no reason to negotiate on tax cuts and can let them expire. If only the Left could see that and stop the incessant complaining. Fortunately recent election results appear to imply that independents have gotten the message and are unlikely to back republicans in 2012 as in 2010.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 12:49 PM
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16. While fully acknowledging the TeaPubliKlan push to strangle the economy
I haven't the slightest what is being done to foster growth. I don't believe in the false secular deity, "The Invisible Hand". All I see are efforts to shrink demand, counter-productive "free trade" agreements, and tomfoolery with tax code that can only negate incentives for investment.

Our problems are structural and in no small way fueled by failed ideology embraced by both political parties, just more ardently by the idiot TeaPubliKlans.
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Hand_With_Eyes Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 04:04 PM
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17. The 'invisible hand' is greed
And we all know what that leads to....collapse
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:32 PM
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11. Forget Repub majorities, we couldn't even get it done with Dem majorities. n/t
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JayceR Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:38 PM
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12. Being rich...
Should be about financial independence and stability, not pummeling the lower classes, flaunting wealth, and bribing congressmen into subsidizing you. Prominent wingnut Mike Huckabee's book is titled "Do the Right Thing". I think Republicans should practice what they preach.
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