Buh bye Cenk, hello Rev. Al, Sharpton rumored to replace emoprog Uygur

MSNBC Looking to Make a Change at 6pm

Cenk Uygur was thrust onto the MSNBC schedule in January, when Keith Olbermann‘s departure set in motion several host changes on the progressive channel’s lineup.

Now TVNewser hears Uygur may be moved out of the 6pm hour, possibly to be replaced by Al Sharpton. When the host changes happened earlier this year, the 6pm hour was simply known as “MSNBC Live,” a telling sign that MSNBC was trying out Uygur.

Sharpton has hosted the 6pm show for the last two weeks. This past week, the hour was second, to Fox News, in A25-54 viewers Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
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http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbc-looking-to-make-a-change-at-6pm_b76895

can find a place for him or Free Speech TV.

as David Gregory filled in for Keith

nt

...no mistaking those two guys that's for sure

LOL. That hack at Current?

Seriously - you confused THESE two?

:shrug:

during his first week.

:headbang:
rocktivity

I think they haven't given him enough time to gain an audience.

They will learn what low ratings really are if they put Al Sharpton in the slot.

I think he will garner more viewer than Cenk. I like Sharpton's take on all things that matter to me for the most part.

Al has endured. I've a few buds who will definitely watch. Perhaps MSNBC can pick up the African American viewers who don't generally watch 'pundit' shows. :)

He is sharp-witted and is not afraid to go off script. I hope MSNBC gives him free reign. I wish Cenk would take over the "Tweetypeat" at 7pm.

. . .we turn Cenk off. Also, being African American I can tell you other African Americans will tune in and watch. . .trust me.

He will do much better in the ratings than Cenk.

*big smile* :D

I look at TV Newser from time to time and Cenk was always beating CNN by a lot!!!

Too much truth for MSNBC, just like Keith!

:puke:

I guess there are different types for everyone out there. I think he is extremely handsome.

In fact, he's just my type. I'm glad you said something -- I was starting to question what was the matter with ME??

Sharpton needs to work on his delivery and reading the teleprompter If they make the replacement permanent, I'll have 1 less MSNBC show to TIVO.

neither can read the prompter, and both have a halting delivery..

Al's a great activist, but I don't like watching him..

his return. Sharpton doesn't debate his guests very well, IMO.

I'll be watching something else after Hardball.

But I've been lovin' Rev. Al.

I think he picked up a lot of friends once people were able to hear more than manipulated short phrases played by right-wing loons on their radio, tv shows.

Welcome to D.U., nobodyspecial! :hi:

Why not put Cenk in one of those slots?

We need all the different perspectives on exposing real news that we can get!

I like Rev Al - he goes right for it and calls them on their shit!

He will get more comfortable with the format in time. Cenk improved greatly after his first few weeks.

I wonder if we should write to MSNBC to let them know that we want them to makea place for Cenk?

Annette

We need the bench strength!

Sharpton's not bad, though. We need the bench strength! At least he's not a CON. That would totally suck.

evening.

Sharpton for Cenk fits that. Al is ok but he is establishment to the point of being an education deform flunky. Cenk tells the truth, all of it.

:D

Please!

I'll have to watch her more carefully next time (usually multitasking)

I think she is soft on the money party (I suspect because that would mean hitting our guys pretty hard at times too) and a kitten for the neocon element.

She a fantastic talent and tough on the TeaPubliKlans while being fairly professional with them but she won't hammer our turds when they do the same kinds of crap. It worked better with Keith there to hammer the visceral and she could balance with the nuance and fact finding.

I also think that Keith pushed her and that element is gone. Her show, which I preferred to Countdown, just doesn't seem to work as well as a stand alone for me. I'm surprised but it just seems like she has less room to operate or something.

Democratic timidity a couple of nights ago.

don't care that much if I even see her show or not anymore.

defending him and reminding us that he's still the greatest thing since sliced bread.

She will support and defend Obama and Democrats, and sometimes she will criticize them.

I see her approach as iltelkectual honesty and consistency.

Also she's at the forefront in giving time to all the latest spin against the "enemy" du jour.

Apart from those puzzling problems, she is wonderful.

:rofl:

Sid

Interesting beginnings for such a "Progressive" voice.

I'll go with Sharpton.

It isn't where you start but how you finish that matters.

miss Cenk. I thought he was on vacation.

He did a week on Ed's show before this, so he's been on for three weeks in a row. I have no objections with him keeping this time slot, but they should give Cenk the hour after that, currently occupied by a pointless Tweety rerun.

. . .he does OK in commentator, analyst role, but he is a horrible host. With his anti-Obama tilt he is well suited to be Ed's under study.

I'd just like to say that Al Sharpton is too good of a man to promote using negatives about the person he is filling in for. That is extremely bad form. The fact that you posted a passive aggressive anti-Cenk post in the guise of praising Rev Sharpton speaks to a lack of understanding. A cable news outlet is not like the royal family, no one needs to fall for you to ascend.

I'm not a huge Sharpton fan either but I will watch him.

I'm not sure what it is about Cenk but when he laughs it seems forced and inappropriate. I've also seen him miss too many opportunities to rebut an issue. I know that not very many of them are good at that (Rachel is the best I think) and I know that it would be really hard for me to think of my feet too but I'm not getting paid to as they are.

must not let that happen. :eyes:

I wish transcripts were available for his show so I could link to them.

The ratings for Rev Sharpton's show have been strong and he's much better on TV than the other person, who was never particularly skillful at basic things like modulating his voice.

but I don't think he feels very comfortable on the tube. His snark seems forced, as if he is reading a script and at the same time thinking "man, this sucks ..." I think his talents are wasted on his show. He needs freedom to be himself.

Sharpton is ok, imho. His delivery is terrible, however his unabashed anger and willingness to get in the Repukes/TPers faces is wonderful. Hope he keeps it up.

Cenk Uygar voted for George W Bush over Al Gore-enough said-fuck him

much prefer Rev Al's mature approach to Cenk's immature and cynical approach.

Cenk doesn't do it for me, nor does Ed. I prefer Spitzer over both. Al Sharpton is not bad though. I can see making him a part of my daily viewing.

for the upcoming election year.

Cenk does not swallow what the WH is peddling hook, line, and sinker... so he has to go.

I like Al, but after the Cornel West blow up, we know where he lays his head.

Ah America... whadda country.

:shrug:

:rofl:

the way it's looking... I'm not sure Barack Obama is interested in the Presidency either.

:shrug:

to go up against Obama. Should be very entertaining should you find someone.

That could be a winner for MSNBC!

It might attract millions of viewers if only because of its sheer novelty.

remains on TV. I don't think they need to drop Cenk to do so, they not only over repeat, but they have far too much crap about prison and plenty of room for more original programming. I like Cenk just fine, and he and Al compliment the network more than their entire morning lineup. For me, they do not exist mornings and weekends. If they intend to compete, they need to complete. Part time nets are not nets at all.
Now, if they had shows on at the same time on opposing networks, I'd always watch Al Sharpton. But if it was my network, I'd add rather than substitute in this case.

is Lawrence O'D....let's face it NOBODY on TV has a better grasp of what is going on in this whole debt ceiling thing with having actually worked on the budget com.

Sleepy time with uncle Larry may give some new info every now and then, but his delivery is terrible and he often comes off as a third rate Pres Bartlett impersonator.

He was really good on the political gamesmanship that was going on in the negotiations

especially after his "lectures" the past week.

his insights, observations only he can offer to someone like me, who has no awareness whatsoever of how Washington actually works, or legal aspects of government.

I appreciate his serious delivery, which seems to trust to listener to be able to follow him without his resorting to childish emotionalism to sell his show.

It's clear he didn't set his sights on "show biz," and that's o.k. with me.

I found it VERY interesting when he, as you mentioned, could point to his actual involvement in the inner workings of that budget, pointing out the real way with which the debt ceiling has been handled in the past, without this appalling nightmarish exhibition by Republicans.

I like and respect him and all the work he has done of his many years, but I just can't watch/listen to him, gotta turn him off

I didn't care for Cenk in the beginning, but grew to like him and his perspective

Al's OK but not must see so I guess the good news is this frees up an hour for me to not be tied to the TV.

That drooling dildo is unwatchable.

I like Cenk even though I've rarely been able to watch his show.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I really like Al Sharpton, too. They should lose Matthews whose show was dead five years ago.

He is so cool, who could not like him? There should be room for both of them. I agree about Matthews , he has gone past his "sell by" date.

Never liked Sharpton since that Tonya whatever her name was business years ago.

Brawley had a history of severe abuse from her stepfather, and the whole incident apparently began in part because she had been out with her boyfriend and was afraid to go home to a beating.

Jeeez. What a shithead.

Did you forgive him for that? People make mistakes. Al has grown in leaps and bounds since that time, the same way that Kennedy changed from his past.

Republicans, but I don't trust him completely. However as a talkshow host, he's sharp and informed and I would not want to be on the wrong side of an argument with him. He's very good.

Cenk is great also and I hope they give him more time to get an audience. Most people do not know him yet, but he really is excellent with a superb grasp of the facts.

Maybe Keith shouold be trying to pick up people like Cenk and let them fill in for him also.

People need to get to know someone and Cenk has done a great job so far but needs more exposure.

Everyone knows All and they either love him or hate him, but they can't and never could, ignore. As Tom Wolfe, I think it was Tom Wolfe, once said after the Tawana Brawley affair and people were turned off Sharpton for a while, 'Al Sharpton was necessary'. And he was. There was so much police brutality towards African Americans in NYC and no one standing against it, until Sharpton came along. And he definitely helped to highlight those abuses.

The Village Voice did a lengthy article on Sharpton a number of years ago. Rev. Al has had a checkered past. Just sayin' . . .

However, that was early history, before either Bensonhurst or Howard Beach. Whatever Sharpton's connections were with the FBI, he regained a lot of community trust with his subsequent actions. The Bensonhurst case was headed to an official dismissal until Sharpton intervened. His marches prodded the reluctant D.A. to indict the white gang that murdered the black guy. That scenario was repeated in the Howard Beach incident except that the D.A. had already declined to prosecute the white thugs.

White guys went to prison for murdering black guys who happened to wander into a "white" neighborhood. In both cases, Al Sharpton led marches behind the slogan No Justice No Peace. He sought justice, and he got it.



"Al's Army" in Howard Beach

Cenk is MSNBC's only redeeming quality. They get rid of him and the network is pretty much pointless.

especially since KO left. If this is true it is really upsetting. :argh:

and should have his own show but NOT Cenk's. Give Al one of Tweety's hours.

They don't repeat any other show, until after 11pm

awful if I make it home in time to catch the last of the 5pm show. Give Matthews 7pm, Sharpton 6pm, Cenk either 5pm or 10pm, have Ed on at either 5pm or 10pm. Keep O'Donnell at 8pm and Rachel at 9pm.

:shrug:

Is Chris Matthews a big shareholder in GE or something?

He's a fucking embarrassment to the cause.

nasty baggage too that he never fully explained.

Did you read that in my post? Is it discernible from my profile?

Nasty baggage indeed.

He may have been a little too trusting, but for the job he took upon himself in defending her, I would certainly hope for no less.

Many people believed her story. Who do you think would have helped her if he didn't? Would you have stood up for her?

I thought he was just on vacation. Although I agree with Rev Al on most issues I just liked Cenk's style much better.

I probably will be one of those who won't watch Rev Al all that much. Too bad they don't give Cenk the 7pm slot. I like Cenk's approach with interviews. I also think hes a very good speaker when it comes to giving the progressive point of view.

I am pretty skeptical of this.

the way Genk does. I am often dismayed when Cenk allows a rightwing nut to poison the air and does not challenge that guest. Al Sharpton challenges rightwing nuts and more often that not, rips their half truths apart.

bullshit and is not very good an rebutting them.

their alleged points. Sharpton has good counters that makes sense. I see him as more effective than Cenk. Sharpton does not speak as well as Cenk, but I would rather have a fighter than someone that is polished but lets guests walk over them.

Sharpton has trouble reading the teleprompter.
Every time he comes to the "emphasize this part" of the sentence, he takes a breath, and pauses so long that it is like he is scared.

My brother said Sharpton reads the teleprompter like there is a guy standing just off camera with a gun pointed at his head.

Ha ha ha.

the right spew out their drivel the way Cenk does. Sharpton challenges and highlights lies to viewers. Of the shows that I have watched, Sharpton has been the more effective. Is it that he does not hate President Obama the thing that bothers you?

Cenk and all of the Young Turks would be a better fit in place of the Morning Joe slot.

I say dump that second hour of Hardball once and for all. Chris Matthews does not deserve double programming.

If they want to give Al a show then they should just get rid of the Hardball repeat show.
I do not understand why the hell they have the Hardball repeat on everyday at 6pm CT.

I'd like it IF the schedule was...

Hardball 4pm
Al Sharpton 5pm
Cenk Uygur 6pm
Lawrence O'donnell 7pm
Rachel Maddow 8pm
Ed Schultz 9pm

(above is Central Time)

post. Getting rid of the Matthews repeat is a must, I don't understand why it was not done long ago. Stopping the repeat and filling the time with a powerful host will improve overall ratings.

"MSNBC Live" is better on his own show though. Maybe he could be himself more on another TV network.

Sharpton's show won me over after a couple of days though - he's funny when he calls out the Republican smarmies.

Maybe "MSNBC Live" will have some stories to tell about MSNBC when he leaves.

Having said that MSNBC is generally more part of the solution than part of the problem imo. They seem to be getting a lot tougher in giving it back to the RW bullies. Everyone around the world seems to be.

Comcast was taking over MSNBC. Comcast in fact seems to be making MSNBC better and moving it toward challenging lies from ultra-conservatives.

I think he's a pretty good host.

He's a dishonest fame junkie, an embarrassment to our side, and someone no progressive should want speaking for them. Anyone who was so gleeful to be a FOX News guest isn't worth taking seriously.

This is bad news if true, and a sign that MSNBC is going further downhill.

Sid