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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 09:48 AM
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Rebuttal To Obama Not putting Military Spending "On The Table"
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 09:52 AM by KittyWampus
This is a rebuttal to the FALSE statement that Obama won't put Military spending 'on the table'.

Sick of the lies, false information, half truths and all around BULLSHIT posted on DU about Obama and other elected DEMOCRATS.

Incoming! More Defense Spending Cuts?

When we wrote in April that the U.S. could both build a smarter military and save $1 trillion in defense spending over the coming decade (out of a total of about $7 trillion), it seemed pretty radical. But President Obama has called for $400 billion in savings over the coming 12 years, and now there's word that an even deeper cut -- perhaps another $400 billion -- may be coming. All of a sudden, cuts of up to $800 billion -- within spitting distance of $1 trillion in this town -- seem possible.

"I'm certainly doing budget drills beyond $400 billion," Marine General James Cartwright, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Battleland over breakfast Thursday. The politically-astute four-star insisted he was merely exercising self-initiated due diligence. But a senior Pentagon official says the Office of Management and Budget has ordered the Pentagon to plan for cuts beyond that initial $400 billion bogey.

"The reality is you're worried about a deeper cut," Cartwright said. "Is there another $400 billion behind the first $400 billion -- I don't what the number is." But even the suggestion that deeper cuts may be coming requires planning. "Let's say $400 billion may not be all that hard to come up with, but the decisions you make, if you know you're going to do more, may be very different decisions -- so you have to look beyond that," he told reporters. "So we're doing due diligence on that -- we're going to go ahead and look beyond.

Responding to a follow-up from Battleland, Cartwright repeated $400 billion as the possible size of an additional cut: "If there is another $400 billion," he said, "I do I want to make sure when I set myself up that I'm going to be able to do that."


Read more: http://battleland.blogs.time.com/2011/07/15/incoming-more-defense-spending-cuts/#ixzz1ST64Ph4H
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 09:52 AM
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1. So it is "suggestion" for a further cut.
And again, let me point out that a four hundred billion cut in military spending over twelve years amounts to approximately 33 billion annually, less that the annual adjustment for inflation. Even if you double that amount, you're still going to be talking about far less than a ten percent cut in our military budget, about six percent, tops.

Yeah, we're really cutting that military budget down to size now:eyes:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 09:59 AM
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2. If you eliminate lies, false information, half truths and all around BULLSHIT posted on DU,
what would be left? Your truth is bullshit to someone else here as is mine.

We all tend to see and hear what we want to see and disregard anything that does not line up with what we already think and believe. We consider those who UnRec threads with which we agree (or especially our own) to be freepers or trolls, but when we UnRec an OP doing so is righteous and holy.

In many ways we are the flip side of the coin from the other side, we just refuse to acknowledge it.

Good luck with dispelling the lies, false information, half truths and all around BULLSHIT posted on DU, but don't expect many pats on the back or Recs for doing it.

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Lurks Often Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 11:27 AM
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7. Well Said!!! +1 Trillion nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:06 AM
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3. It's sad, isn't it? Thanks for the clarification.
Sadly, the avalanche of posts that present negative "stuff" about President Obama are almost too many to correct. Thanks for helping to correct them.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:20 AM
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4. Agreed. Thanks. n/t
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:20 AM
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5. K & R
:thumbsup:
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CelticThunder Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 11:26 AM
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6. Does this mean he won't cut Medicare and SS?
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Lurks Often Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 11:37 AM
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8. One of the things we can do to control the Defense budget
is to get BOTH parties in Congress to stop buying and funding things that the military doesn't want or need.

Two examples of this is the second engine for the F-35 and the $850 million for a tanker aircraft to replace the KC-46 tanker aircraft which hasn't even entered service yet.*
Link: http://articles.courant.com/2011-06-20/business/hc-senate-armed-services-defense-20110617_1_alternate-engine-pratt-whitney-defense-budget

There is a line between bringing jobs back to your home state and screwing over the rest of the country to bring jobs back to your home state.


*I will acknowledge that I am not certain that it made into the final Defense bill, I found the search function within the bill to suck and I have other things to do with my time then read 1348 pages of bill that has already passed.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 07:24 AM
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10. The problem there is that many of these pet projects that you quite
rightly identify, are inserted in order to get money back to the district.

No one really looks at the military budget because no one wants to be considered to be weak on defense (offense) and that will be the charge if someone wants to take a good look at the waste in the budget.

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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:43 AM
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9. Wait! Wait!
Bottom line: we're STILL in Iraq and Afghanistan!
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