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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:32 PM
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Activists pledge to withhold millions if Obama cuts entitlements
Source: Raw Story
By David Edwards

If President Barack Obama gives in to Republican demands to cut Social Security and Medicare, it could cost him.

The Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) delivered a petition with the signatures of 200,000 donors and volunteers to the president's re-election campaign headquarters in Chicago Friday.

Organizers said that Obama will have to get re-elected without their help if he slashes the social safety net.

During the 2008 presidential election, the group claims it donated $17 million and 2.6 volunteer hours.

More at: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/18/activists-pledge-to-withhold-millions-if-obama-cuts-entitlements/

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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:35 PM
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1. President Obama raised $47 M for his campaign and another $20 M for the DNC...
...in the last quarter. Somebody must like him.

I don't oppose any individual or group pressing their case, but I'm not sure this is their strongest argument.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:40 PM
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2. Somebody must like him.
Bankers.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:46 PM
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4. Corporate America likes him. I'm not sure they should be
boasting about that. He will win, he's done a good job for them and unless one of the Republicans running can promise them more, I doubt they are not happy with his work on their behalf so far.

Withholding money by the people is absolutely the right thing to do. With the WH, no matter who occupies it, so beholden to Wall St, the people have to put their money behind Congressional candidates and over time build a strong Congress that will keep the WH in check.

So, true, he won't miss our small amounts of money, although they are still asking for it, but if SS is cut, most Democrats will not be sending a dime to the presidential campaign.

Congress is where the people have power. That is where the money and effort needs to go from now on. And local elections of course.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 04:05 PM
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10. 65% came from donations of $200 or less...
Two-thirds of Obama campaign cash from small donors

By Eric Johnson
and Kim DixonPosted 2011/07/16 at 1:31 pm EDT

CHICAGO/WASHINGTON, July 16, 2011 (Reuters) — Nearly two-thirds of the $86 million cash haul raised by President Barack Obama for his re-election effort in recent months came from small donations of under $200 or less, according to filings released on Friday.

Earlier in the week, Obama released top-line data on his campaign from April to June, breaking a prior fundraising record by former president George W. Bush. The $86 million includes $47 million raised by Obama's campaign itself and $39 million raised by the Democratic National Committee.

The numbers underscore the campaign's promise of targeting small-dollar donations instead of powerful political action committees as the Democratic incumbent seems re-election in 2012.

More than 65 percent of the funds raised by the Democratic incumbent's campaign, Obama for America, were from donations of $200 or less, according to FEC filings.

http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre76e715-us-usa-campaign-obama-cash/
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 04:08 PM
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11. 65% has sofar been received through donations of $200 or less...


Two-thirds of Obama campaign cash from small donors

By Eric Johnson
and Kim DixonPosted 2011/07/16 at 1:31 pm EDT

CHICAGO/WASHINGTON, July 16, 2011 (Reuters) — Nearly two-thirds of the $86 million cash haul raised by President Barack Obama for his re-election effort in recent months came from small donations of under $200 or less, according to filings released on Friday.

Earlier in the week, Obama released top-line data on his campaign from April to June, breaking a prior fundraising record by former president George W. Bush. The $86 million includes $47 million raised by Obama's campaign itself and $39 million raised by the Democratic National Committee.

The numbers underscore the campaign's promise of targeting small-dollar donations instead of powerful political action committees as the Democratic incumbent seems re-election in 2012.

More than 65 percent of the funds raised by the Democratic incumbent's campaign, Obama for America, were from donations of $200 or less, according to FEC filings.

http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre76e715-us-usa-campaign-obama-cash/
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 04:59 PM
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13. You want to look at those numbers again?
The 65% is of OFA receipts - that is, 65% of 47 million. That works out to about 28.2 million in donations of $200 or less. If you use the $200 as the base line, that's slightly more than 1.4 million small donations. Of course, some would be less, so let's say it was roughly 1.5 million small doners. Out of some 55 million Democratic voters.

Looks like overwhelming support to me.

:eyes:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:56 PM
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20. That's far more grassroots support than any other Democratic or GOP President in American history.
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 07:09 PM by ClarkUSA
Sure looks like overwhelming support to me. 260,000 new donors, too! :woohoo:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:26 AM
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28. How does it compare to Obama in 08? nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:59 AM
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30. Apples and oranges. A correct comparison would be to 2007 Q2 numbers.
In that case, these numbers are astounding. Just wait until 2012 Q2. :D
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:20 AM
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25. The story I posted used numbers straight off the FEC campaign finance filings.
Looks like you guys are still in need of a candidate.
If you're going to oppose Obama, you'd better move quickly, as time is running short.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 06:06 AM
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26. And Bernie's not available...
Trust me - I spent the weekend with him.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:56 PM
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7. Yes, he has already been thoroughly bribed.
Our donations would be dismissed along with our opinions. So, the donations will be withheld. The votes: it's wait and see.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:57 PM
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21. Bullshit. Do you have any proof of your ridiculous claim other than your nonsensical one-liner?
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 07:07 PM by ClarkUSA
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:43 PM
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3. Is it CUT, or SLASH???
And ... if nothing happens at all, then what ... ??

Will this group beat their prior numbers? Meet them?

What?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:49 PM
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5. Pres Obama has anticipated this. He plans to make up the difference with corp donations. Checkmate.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:58 PM
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22. Prove it. Show us a list of factual quotes w/credible source links.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:52 PM
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6. Only 200,000? PUMA and freeper numbers are dwindling.
Yeah, like I believe that these idiots donated and supported President Obama wholeheartedly in 2008. :eyes:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:59 PM
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8. Thanks for the insult to an Obama supporter in 2008 through the primaries and the election.
An Obama delegate (along with my wife) to our state Democratic convention (my son was an Obama delegate to the county convention).

We idiots, those you so casually dismiss as PUMAs and freepers, were the base of his election. His new base is Wall Street.

Oh how proud you must feel!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:35 PM
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15. Whatever.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:50 PM
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19. Do you think it's okay to call "current" Pres. Obama supporters...
..."dumb motherfuckers"?

Personally, names don't bother me much. I did enjoy the "dumb motherfucker" comment from Hamsher only because it made her look like a complete ass. Just curious to know how you felt about it.

Sincerely,
A "Dumb Motherfucker"

P.S. I still consider myself part of his "base". I don't work on Wall Street. I'm an underpaid graphic artist with no health insurance and a son in the Marines. I'm also an active member of my local Democratic Party. I always thought his "base" was comprised of people from all walks of life. Even folks like yourself. And, probably a handful from Wall Street. I do know he has some supporters on military bases around the world. I also know quite a few Progressives that still support him. I don't know one single person on Wall Street. Good movie, though.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 04:00 PM
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Of course they did.
Their Hillary supporters jumped aboard the Obama wagon immediately and never looked back! The rest were glued to his speeches and did extensive research on his past and were absolutely positivo that he was a Progressive and would never disappoint them!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:43 PM
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18. lol
;)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 04:00 PM
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9. Whistle past the graveyard if you must,
but how many votes did Nader get in Florida in 2000?



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone



"By their WORKS you will know them."






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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:36 PM
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16. WTF are you talking about? I doubt any of these idiots were going to vote for Obama anyway...
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 06:46 PM by ClarkUSA
... considering most of them were probably anti-Obama in the first place aka. PUMAs, astroturfing freepers, or paid Koch Brothers right wing trolls.

I'll take the 260,000 new donors to the Obama campaign over these foolish malcontents any day.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 09:52 PM
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23. Do you have the slightest bit of evidence for your assertion?
I'm guessing that your "reasoning" is that it fits your worldview to believe that no one who actually supported Obama in 2008 would now express any dissatisfaction with him.

Well, you may find the truth unpleasant. You're certainly entitled to the opinion that we're misguided. But you just make yourself look foolish when you deny that we even exist.

I went door-to-door for Obama in 2008. I don't expect to do so in 2012. I'll vote for him, but my volunteer time and energy will be devoted to progressive candidates in downticket races.

I've been criticizing Obama from the left for some time now. If the Koch brothers have been paying me to do so, all I can say is that they're damn slow getting the check cut.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:57 AM
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29. There's zero evidence to back up this group's assertions that these folks were ALL contributors.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 11:01 AM by ClarkUSA
Why don't you ask them for evidence? Or is your demand for evidence purely based on whether you like what you hear? :eyes:
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:12 PM
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31. I find it plausible that there's significant liberal dissatisfaction with Obama
On that list, were they "ALL contributors" (the standard you want to set)? I'm sure they aren't. There are probably some right-wing fraudsters, some apolitical adolescents just getting their lulz, etc.

BUT if you read DU, you'll know that at least some genuine progressives have lost their enthusiasm for Obama because of his conservatism. That's backed up by plenty of other sources, too.

Obama raised about $650 million in the 2008 campaign. The group is claiming that its members donated $17 million. Do you find it utterly inconceivable that the discontent extends to 2.6 percent of the donor base? I think that 2.6 percent understates the defections, because many '08 donors never even heard about the pledge.

As against that, of course, Obama will pick up quite a few new donors. Some of them will be centrists who, in 2008, fell for the right-wing lie that he was "the most liberal Senator." His repeated disproof of that lie has saddened some of us but gladdened them, and they'll now donate.

I'm resigned to the fact that the Obama re-election campaign is happy to trade away us "professional leftists" in exchange for support from further to the right. In terms of maximizing Obama's re-election chances, that cynicism is probably correct. It would be good for party unity, however, if the Obama enthusiasts would stop pretending that the rest of us don't exist. Most of us will vote for Obama. The more that we're accused of being Koch hirelings or "fucking retarded" (per Rahm), however, the more people will get so ticked off that they can't even bring themselves to cast that vote.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:24 PM
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32. There's zero evidence to back you up as well.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 02:24 PM by ClarkUSA
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:43 PM
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34. Delude yourself all you like
Real Democrats have woken up. We WILL NOT support a politician simply because they put a (D) behind their name when they VOTE LIKE A REPUBLICAN.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 04:11 PM
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12. Will they be spending money to defeat those who really want to cut those programs; Republicans,
or is that too much to ask? :shrug:
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 09:57 PM
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24. Yes.
I expect to vote for Obama, but to devote my volunteer time, and any money I can afford to contribute, to progressive candidates in downticket races.

You see, Obama isn't competing with Bachmann or Romney or the like for my support. He's competing with people from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party. In fact, once I get past your somewhat snarky tone, I appreciate your asking this question, because it's a chance to clarify that criticism of Obama doesn't mean support for right-wingers.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 05:20 PM
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14. ...and every baby boomer.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:38 PM
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17. Activists pledge to continue to withhold millions more jobs if Obama cuts entitlements
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 07:47 AM
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27. Small matter....

the grateful rich will cover the slack and then some.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:27 PM
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33. All Obama has to do to prevent this is to promise to veto any bill cutting benefits.
So, why isn't he making that promise?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:44 PM
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35. We all know why, and it's a sickening betrayal of all of us who contributed,
worked for and voted for the Trojan Horse in 2008.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:47 PM
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36. +100000
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:52 PM
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37. Funny I just sent my 3rd or 4th email to the president. I told them
same thing. I will not give until I see what they do on the debt ceiling. I have called senators, and congressmen and told them the same. I keep getting phone calls for contributions or letters. I tell them the same thing. I will hold out. Cut programs forget my vote and my money.
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