Why is everyone getting worked up about the Gang of Six proposal?

brooklynite

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Tue Jul-19-11 03:54 PM
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Why is everyone getting worked up about the Gang of Six proposal?

Yes, the President supports it, but is this any more likely to get through the House than the previous proposals?

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liskddksil

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Tue Jul-19-11 03:55 PM
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1. "Yes the President supports it" - I think that says it all

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woo me with science

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Tue Jul-19-11 04:14 PM
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5. +100000000

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jaxx

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Tue Jul-19-11 04:08 PM
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2. The President supports the idea of the proposal.

It's not a done deal on the specifics.

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vi5

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Tue Jul-19-11 04:09 PM
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3. Probably because...

It's yet another ridiculously right wing tilted proposal that is being touted by all the supposedly serious people as some sort of grand, bipartisan bargain. Because the people who we put in charge of protecting our interests are again shifting the entire debate of what is reasonable to the right. Because again we are putting our most conservative of Democrats (Conrad, Warner) in charge of representing our interests and giving crap proposals "bipartisan" cover.

We've seen how this shit plays out and it's rarely good.

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CrispyQ

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Tue Jul-19-11 05:10 PM
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8. +1

Well said.

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Octafish

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Tue Jul-19-11 04:11 PM
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4. Remember the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan you don't hear about on TV anymore?

Well that and the wars in Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and wherever the heck else is why.

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BOG PERSON

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Tue Jul-19-11 04:14 PM
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6. what is the gang of six?

are they in any way like the gang of four? i don't mean the band, btw.

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msongs

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Tue Jul-19-11 04:33 PM
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7. a group of senators who are steering the republican agenda towards conclusion nt

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JoePhilly

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Tue Jul-19-11 05:16 PM
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9. Its a group of senators who create a very rough proposal.

Obama did not endorse the proposal. He said that it seems to be moving in the right direction, but that there are many details that are not defined yet which could derail an agreement.

He also said that if that proposal, with the details worked out, can't get enough support, he'll support a clean debt limit increase proposal that Reid and Coburn are working on.

I've read the proposal, and I doubt that the GOP Tea Party wing will vote for it. Likewise, I doubt that enough Dems will support it either, even if the details are worked out.

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October

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Wed Jul-20-11 09:20 AM
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10. Accidental unrec...I'm sorry.

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rucky

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Wed Jul-20-11 09:23 AM
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11. Whatever gets through the House

will be reconciled with this POS when it passes the Senate.

Then we'll be stuck with and even crappier POS than this.

That's how HCR went down, with the difference being the House passed a better version that got watered down. I don't see the House passing anything better than this - most likely worse.

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edhopper

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Wed Jul-20-11 09:23 AM
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12. Because we see the elements of the compromise

SS and Medicare are on the table. NO tax increase for the wealthy.
Any tax increase is targeted at the middle class.
NO progressive ideas will be entertained.

That's why.

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jtown1123

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Wed Jul-20-11 09:30 AM
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13. Yep. And all signs point to this proposal being the go to "solution" for permanent debt reduction

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dawg

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Wed Jul-20-11 09:34 AM
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14. It's not this proposal, in particular.

It's the realization for many that our party controls, at best, only the Senate. The President might as well be a Republican on economic issues, and he is actively using the bully-pulpit to tear-down progressive frames and ideology.

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jtown1123

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Wed Jul-20-11 09:38 AM
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15. Yes. Did you read this Jon Walker piece in FDL? Sums up everything

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/07/19/obama-wants-to-cut-medicare-and-social-security-benefits/

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