SCARY Extremist Tea Partier ,Preparing for Martial Law: Video Proof

This is what the Republican and tea party Mindset brings on
This Guy is Hand Digging a Bomb shelter, stockpiling Rice, wheat, flour , thousands of Rounds of ammo ,as well as Training for Martial Law .
This Self Professed Christian/Prepper just shows you how the Republican party and Tea Party Mindset is scaring the population into Going along with their twisted policies
Check out this weirdo
VERY SCARY
http://www.youtube.com/user/Patriotsurvival

and they are doing it because we have a serious financial issues that are being ignored wholesale. People are doing it in different ways, and for different (smaller) reasons, but in the grand scheme, their purpose is the same: To survive when the wheels come off.

And make no mistake: They ARE going to com off. There are some 240+ TRILLION dollars in toxic derivatives floating around out there. And when those go critical (and again, they will) there isn't enough money on the planet to fix it.

What is truly scary is that there are people pretending like there's nothing at all out-of-the-ordinary in what is going on today. That is a dangerous denial, in my opinion.

This guy if you watch just 1 of his videos is off his rocker
he claims that a "high ranking DHEC official " told him that Martial Law was soon to come to his City
He Claims that this official told him that they had plans to Lock down the city and not let anyone leave

There is no way that our government would do that here unless there was a virus or Nuclear attack

the government is not our friend, and would not hesitate to implement martial law at the drop of a hat. The unPATRIOTic Act, the MCA and other such putrid legislation have paved the way.

Am I okay with that? No. Is it an inevitability? Yes, I believe it is.

supply of food? One natural disaster, earthquake for example could cause great calamity. Ask any Katrina victim. It's not what you think.

I went through Katrina. I ALWAYS have emergency food now. Water is a big problem, too. I've been meaning to get a water purifier, but I also keep gallons of water just in case.

I just dont think he should be allowed to stockpile AK-47s Ammo and body Armor
thats what it looks like he is doing

isnt that illegal ?

also he is scaring other people by posting videos like this
ask most psychologists and they will tell you that a man digging a Bunker is suffering from some type of paranoia

I have a .22, a 12 Gauge, an air pistol and some fireworks.

I absolutely agree that stockpiling AK-47s is whack.

Are they related to the 9 out 10 doctors who smoked Camels?

Some local jurisdictions establish a threshold for ammunition storage. Go beyond that threshold and you need to register the location and pull a permit. These restrictions don't usually have anything to do with restricting firearms ownership, but are established out of a concern for fire safety (if a house has 500 cases of ammunition in the basement, the fire department wants to know that ahead of time when your neighbor calls in reporting smoke coming out your window).

I don't know of any state laws that restrict the number of weapons you can own, so long as they are all purchased legally and stored in a way that complies with that states laws. My dad is a gun collector, and has dozens of firearms in his vault. There's nothing illegal about it.

"And when those go critical (and again, they will) there isn't enough money on the planet to fix it."

LOL...You really think that all these "derivatives" you are so concerned about will settle, eh? Honestly?

That is like thinking every single auto policy, home owners policy, fire policy, health insurance policy, life insurance policy and every other item covered under some sort of insurance will settle at the same time at some point in the future.

It's absurd.

"(and again, they will)"

Bullshit.

but those derivatives will come back to bite one day. To think otherwise is to be naive.

Oh, and I"m not the only one who thinks this. Stop the the Economics forum sometime. Roubini, Baker, et. al. concur.

Credit Default Swaps? Options? What is it you and these others are so concerned about?

CDS's are insurance products and not all of them by a LONG shot will settle.

This $240 Trillion figure is bollocks, plain and simple. Sure, they might be out there but just like all the insurance policies in force, they all won't settle for 100% of their underwritten value.

To think otherwise is to be afraid of something you clearly don't understand.

You are entitled to believe whatever you choose. And note how I say that without insulting you, despite the fact that I disagree.

Uh, what derivatives? The ones that are so inconsequential that the US government and the too-big-to-fail crew are expending vast resources ignoring them. Ignoring them, indeed, to the point where the government has allowed the banks to not write down these investment vehicles, because it would mean that they're all insolvent, which they are, of course.

Afraid? No. Concerned? More appropriate. Clearly don't understand it? That's funny, because I seem to have a better understanding of it than most. I said that the Bear Stearns collapse in Aug 2007 was the harbinger of a greater meltdown to come. It was. I said in 2005 that inflating a core commodity like Real Estate would inflict massive damage on the economy. It did. So despite your empty insults, I do actually have a pretty good idea what is going on. The exact amount of toxic derivatives, incidentally, is not known, which is one of the things that make it dangerous. Nouriel Roubini, Richard Daughty and Dean Baker agree with me, thus I am not alone in my beliefs.

So if you want to discuss things, I'm all for it. If you think you can manage a rational, intelligent discussion without personal insults and snark, then great! Let's debate. If not, we really don't have anything further to discuss. Good day, sir.

"You are entitled to believe whatever you choose. And note how I say that without insulting you, despite the fact that I disagree."

Really. Laugh out loud.

I insulted you? By saying that you don't understand something? THAT'S an insult to you? Really?

I didn't call you any names or suggest you were an idiot or anything else that ANY rational person could POSSIBLY consider an insult. What I said was "Bullshit", "Bollocks" and "You clearly don't understand".

If you are insulted by that, then I submit you have entirely too thin of a skin and yeah, you're right, we don't have anything further to discuss.


OK...so you got three things that in hindsight, were pretty obvious. Lots of people didn't get them right so hey...kudos to you. You did good! And you should be proud of yourself, seriously. I have one question in this regard though. If you were right and KNEW you were right, did you act on them? The very few others who had your keen insight that did act on that knowledge made a fucking killing. Did you?

Awwww...never mind. It's none of my damned business. Good for you if you did. Too bad if you didn't.


Again, I am going to ask this as clearly as I can, with the most genteel language I can muster, in order to ascertain what exactly it is you are talking about when you say "240 TRILLION dollars in toxic derivatives".

What derivatives? What are they exactly?

I mean, if you are as well versed as you would have me believe, then I'll ask you another question;

How much in simple, run of the mill options contracts expire worthless every week?

Do you have any idea how much the dollar amount of all the insured and/or underwritten obligations there are that exist around the world?

I have seen this idea posted on DU before and it is quite frankly, BULLSHIT. What you are suggesting is tantamount to every single insured automobile in the USA crashing in the span of a single week and ALL of them being considered "totaled" by their respective insurers.

IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN

So there is 240 Trillion worth of "derivatives"? So what?

They will NOT all settle for their full amount, most (that vast majority, I assure you) will expire worthless (just like an out-the-money put or call does) and either way, the entire world population, much less the taxpayers of the USA aren't on the hook for it anyway.

It' a ghost, plain and simple and you and others that suggest the same idea are scared of that ghost.

It is still a ghost.

Edited for clarity, misspelling and punctuation, as usual.

And one more thing.

You called me "naive".

Should I be insulted? Because I am not, by any means. If you think I am because I demonstrate;

1. having or showing unaffected simplicity of nature or absence of artificiality; unsophisticated; ingenuous.
2. having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous: She's so naive she believes everything she reads. He has a very naive attitude toward politics.
3. having or marked by a simple, unaffectedly direct style reflecting little or no formal training or technique: valuable naive 19th-century American portrait paintings. ........

Well, then....no. I read as much as you likely do. I'm just not scared of ghosts.

Yes, I did act on them.

And while you might call them obvious now, such was not common perception at the time. In any case, though:

I was looking at houses during the bubble, and actually made an offer on one place, primarily out of curiosity. After taking the time to read the fine print in the mortgage document, I canceled negotiations and stopped looking.

In the case of the Bear Stearns collapse, I pulled all my money out of the stock market and put it into land, investment property, to be specific. Property in the back country was inflated, but not overheated. While this hasn't offered any great return, it's given me peace of mind.

The reason that I didn't answer your question is because we both know the answer to that question. In any case, toxic derivatives include:

* Credit default swaps (CDS)

* Collateral debt obligations (CDOs)

* Mortgage backed securities

Which, we both now know, you think are just hunky dory. I disagree, and I am not alone in my position. Thus your premise that I "clearly" don't understand what's going is suspect, to say the least.

I do appreciate, however, your response. Thanks for taking the time to share how it is you've come to the position you hold.

Terrific! Glad to hear it!



No shit. That's why I used the expression "The very few others who had your keen insight". In fact, if it had been "common perception at the time", WE LIKELY WOULDN'T BE IN THIS MESS!



So...you fucked up anyway. Well, you aren't alone. Don't feel bad. Lots of people thought Real Estate would continue to be a good investment. If only you had read your previous post before you bought, eh? Flat returns are at least a good as stuffing money under your mattress, anyway. Are you at least growing tobacco and food for yourself on this "back country" property? One would hope so, as you are so inclined to think the "wheels are going to come off".



Right. That's what everyone is worried about. Well, since I have no longer any interest at all if you REALLY understand what a "Credit Default Swap" really is and what it entails, much less what a CDS or an MBS is in your mind, I'll let this one go.

Yup. They are a concern. And much of it has been washed out. And much of it still remains. Is it hunky dory?

FUCK NO! And thank you very much for assuming I think it is. You don't know me or what I know.


This is the sort of statement I see over and over and OVER again on DU. It astounds me. If you and I were sitting across a table at a bar and having this same conversation, and you were able to see my face and read my body language, you would KNOW without a doubt that you and I aren't very far apart on all this. Instead, you take offense to some random dipshit (like me) questioning your take on things and assume that random dipshit thinks things are "hunky dory" and ..well...whatever else you have assumed about me.

Look.....all I am telling you is, that 240 trillion dollar figure that you think is going to blow up in all of our faces is nonsense, OK?

Yes, there is a shitload of unsettled obligations out there, be they CDS's or whatever. But it doesn't mean they will all settle for their face value, alright? Just as I said above, a LARGE majority of that 240 trill figure amounts to little more than basically the idea that the insured value of all the cars and houses etc that exist will be paid out for the max of the policy.

It is ludicrous.

Here's what I thin is going to happen;

It is going to be a crappy economy for a while.

A LOOOONG while. And if the American Electorate put a Republican in the office of President it will get WORSE. not better. Will the US Default on its debt? Maybe, but if so, only for a very short time..like 24 hours or so and if that happens, the electorate will blame the Republicans.

A few years ago Greenspan explained why he did what he did AFTER 9/11 and that was radically loosen money. He did what he did because if he didn't what we are going through now we would have been going through under Bush, and well...we just couldn't have that now, could we?

It is much easier to blame a bright, black, Democratic President for our troubles than a fucking dipshit, white, Texan Republican AND HIS PRECURSORS.

I think it's all hunky dory, do I?

No. I don't. But the wheels aren't going to come off because that is in NO ONE'S interest, including those that have all the damned money.

I didn't intend for it to do that. I based that statement on this:



If I misinterpreted 'So What?', I apologize.

Regarding the number: You can't really claim it's BS, because the truth is that no one really knows what that number is, which is one of the problems. I've seen speculation at anywhere from 24 Trillion to 1.1 Quadrillion. Whatever the exact number, it's big. To dismiss it out-of-hand as nonsense makes no sense. If it isn't an issue, then why did we have to give the banks over a trillion dollars to keep them afloat? If it isn't an issue, then why is the government allowing the banks to keep these vehicles off their books? If it isn't an issue, why are a number of respected economists (aforementioned) saying that it is?

I'm not saying it is exactly that number. It may be more, it may be less. It is not, however, insignificant.

And I think you're correct: If we were sitting across a table or at a bar taking face to face it would be a different conversation. :toast:

Oh, and I didn't 'fuck up.' I put my money where it was safe, and I haven't lost money, and I have something real, useful and tangible. That's fine by me.

As for the Wheels Coming Off, money or no, there is no choice. We have to go through a market correction to get back to real market value and clear this crap out of the system. It's not if, it's when. I guess that would be our main point of contention.

inflated paper debts, which the banks should be forced to absorb. Look at Iceland, we need to do a 180 turn-NOW.

But that's cause I live in CA and remember losing my place because of the northridge quake. The guy in the video is bananas.

He also has Plans to turn a Airstream camper into a Underground Bomb shelter
I guess he thinks the Nukes are coming and he wants to be as comfy as possible

:rofl:

Seriously. That patch he had dug out was very unimpressive. I've been digging a cistern / geo-thermal cooling basin. It's 9 feet wide, 8 feet deep and 14 feet long. If he wants to bury an Airstream, he's got a whole lotta digging ahead of him. :rofl:

200 bucks for a day. Done. No heat stroke.

I admit to having a power auger for post hole digging. ;)

Unless attached to a bobcat.. :)

But better than pulling out crumbs with a post-hole digger.

I think I will hire someone with a machine to come dig the hole though ...lol.

He isn't hurting anyone.

My diet will contain a lot of beans and rice, but I have almost a months worth of food for my family if the Big One hits. I also try to keep a couple flats of water in the pantry, and have filtration equipment that can give us almost two months of clean water from nearly any wet source.

Most people don't bother, but at least I know my kids won't go hungry when the San Andreas slips again.

also, i LOVE the cammo's he's a real 'mericun!

Weighing the pros and cons of shotgun v. revolver, stockpiling kerosene and lamp mantles, and buying junk silver coins.

I suppose that makes me a "scary extremist" too?

No, I'm just concerned that the GOP is really, really, gonna fuck things up this time.

Why would you feel the need to stockpile anything when you can go and get it at the many stores we have in America
This isnt the 1800s

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We have icestorms that can knock out power for weeks. No gas stations open for miles.

Other natural disasters like tornadoes can wipe out power too.

Do you depend on others for your survival?

Good luck with that.

here is another testament to his insanity

In this video He is Practicing a "vehicle assault "
with a Fully automatic Machine gun

how can youtube let people like this on their website without reporting them to the atf or something ?
http://youtu.be/MKUlcq2hJaY

I have no idea what would make you think it was. He pulls the trigger, a bullet comes out. He pulls the trigger again, another bullet comes out.

Any semiautomatic will fire bullets as fast as you can pull the trigger...

Also, automatic weapons are actually legal in many states, so even if it were an automatic weapon, why would you inherently think it was an illegal one?

...that is beside the point. When the guacamole hits the windmill, most people will be SOL and 100% dependent on Fedgov within a few days of any major suspension of civil liberties. Well, assuming Fedgov has any control of what's going on or can respond to your particular area. In reality, you are on your own. Much like the Police, you have to survive the troubles to be around to receive the help thanmillions of others are wanting as well. Most serious Preppers will tell you that AK-47s and ammo are about 1% of their plan. Food, water, power generation, communications, discretion, a network of likeminded souls and a plan are the primaries. Most Preppers won't give you any of theirs for your bits of silver. See: The Ant and the Grasshopper; Katrina; Argentina

You stockpiling these items as well?
so these "Preppers" just going to kick back and watch everyone else die of starvation

Id rather die a slow death than survive a few years while watching neighbors, friends and family die then only to finally run out of "preps' and ultimately die that same slow death from starvation, pestilence ,radiation or whatever scenarios these Survivalists can dream up

and greater Honshu are dreaming shit up??? Ain't that some radioactive doom shit right there?

Do you think Gulfport and New Orleans were dreaming shit up? That was freakin' epic doom, man!

SHIT HAPPENS!

Get real! If you ain't prepping for disaster, you're just asking for it. And as for watching others die, part of prepping is to make others understand the need to do so. So, if you are prepping you should be advising those you'd watch die of starvation to prep themselves. Indeed, EVERYONE should be prepared for a disaster. At minimum you should have a "bug-out" bag with at least 72 hours worth of provisions and you should be prepared to camp outside during that period. But that is only a start. Some are set to supply a large family for a year and others, like me, are good for three months.

My goal is to lay in 6 months of supplies. I'm only half way and fully expecting to run out of time before I can get there as stuff ain't gettin' any cheaper, especially food.

Edited to add: I don't know how many there are in the state.

Also, it's really important to have a plan for the potential disasters that can befall you. In my case, it's tornadoes and that nuke plant. If that nuke goes critical, I have a plan to get completely the hell out of here.

is what I think the elites most fear the public coming to understand --

Hurricanes are moving further north -- number and severity increasing --

It takes a year to properly shut down our nuclear reactrs -- an I don't know

if that includes dealing with the waste!?



IMO, Global Warming demands that we shut these things down now --

About two in every state usually on water !! In Ohio, they put two on Lake Erie ...

a source of their drinking water!!


One of the biggest farces every pushed on the American public and Japanese!!

Imagine that we began the atomic era by dropping bombs on Japan and then they're

talked into going all nuclear for energy!! How does that happen?


MIC got nervous about "Ban the Bomb!" and they needed to invent a peaceful use for atomic

power -- and poof! they gave us nuclear reactors --

Who would be stupid enough to use nuclear power to boil water to create steam?


They were trying to shut down the Fukushima plants 6 years ago -- because they were old,

and built only to withstand 7.0 earthquakes -- and because Japanese scientists were

detecting increasing seismic activity.

Imagine how much better off the planet and humanity would be had that happened!!



:hi:

You can buy in bulk and use their canning equipment to can dry goods. 30 year storage. You don't have to be mormon (we are Wiccan) and they do not preach to you in any way.

It's not for me to tell you what to do, nor am I interested in doing so. For myself, and most of my family, taking steps to ensure our continued survival, and that of our dependents, to the best of our ability, is a desirable endeavor. If seeking a quick death in the face of horrible adversity is your mentality, then all the "preps" in the world won't really matter in your case anyhow. It would be a waste of your time and resources.

imo, has been put in place to make our political arena more aggressive and even

violent --

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I think it has a great deal more to do with the economy & the constant barrage of propaganda coming from "leaders" in the media/politics tellling us how fucked everything is. "There's no money! We can't afford healthcare! We can't afford retirement! People must take wage cuts! Terrorists! Child molesters! Child murderers!"

Oh, & also the religious "leaders" talking up the armageddon shit.

I think it's one big psyops campaign, personally.

We are also actively looking to purchase a small farm in rural northern VT. We've taken gun safety courses and going to take some shooting classes. My fiance is taking classes on solar energy and I'm learning to cook and can. Our housemate is becoming a very knowledgeable organic gardener. We have all been studying earth friendly building and living. My son is in the process of building a "tractor chicken coop" ( basically it is a coop you can move around the yard easier).

The guy might be a bit nutty in some of his beliefs, but then he probably feels the same way about people like myself.

Being prepared is not stupid. Not being prepared to take care of your family is stupid.

I remember people doing it almost 20 years ago because they just knew Janet Reno was coming to their neighborhood with an army of PC Ivy League intellectuals to take their guns, burn their bibles and make their kids listen to rap music...Oh yeah, there was something in there about Clinton handing control of the nation over to the UN or whatever...

have been doing this loooong before there was a Tea Party.

I wonder if he knows that for about half of what he'd spend on just one AK, he could rent a backhoe for a day :think: :spray: :rofl:

I'm think that the post-apocalyptic, dystopian fan-boy fantasies based off of badly written, hack-authored science fiction novellas are not limited to party politics.

If it makes him happy and keeps him out of trouble, go for it.

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