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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:10 PM
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Dominionist ties to Norway terrorist clear and convincing
Interesting article from Leah Burton here: http://www.politicususa.com/en/norway-terrorist-dominionist



Writing about the Dominionist reach in America is challenging – let alone referencing acts on foreign soil such as the Norway slaughter. We are seeing the spin by those like Laura Ingraham and her FOX cohorts in their attempt to make this an anti-Islam terrorist act rather than admit that it has ties to radical Dominionism with its feet firmly planted in the Christian Bible by the bible-based cult of Dominionism.

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With the expressed encouragement of the ‘experts’, we decided years ago to use a single identifying term that we could make a “brand” of the collective efforts by divergent religious groups who all seek to take “dominion” over secular institutions and society in their quest to establish a theocratic government rooted in biblical law. It is working. Even 4 years ago if you Googled Dominionism no more the a few pages would appear. Today there are 1,580,000 results. THAT is progress! And it has taken the efforts of many of us to generate this branding.

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In regards to dominionist linkages to the bloody slaughter in Norway, here are our findings so far:

a) In particular, with a video manifesto (which has been linked on Youtube until it was pulled there, and which has since shown up on Liveleak) the shooter makes some very specific references that show he has familiarity with, and probably shares terminology with (if not overtly sharing intel with) “Christian patriot” militia groups in the US (including material that has been posted on racist and far-right-wing forums in the US, use of particular catch phrases associated with the “Christian Patriot” movement in the US, and others). I’ve just spent nine hours typing up an extensive analysis of the video; he is clearly connected with religious-nationalist groups in Europe and in the US. The degree of references to material originating in the US, in fact, indicate he has been in somewhat regular contact with anti-Muslim racists in the “Christian Patriot” movement in the US, rather than obtaining racialist material from racist groups elsewhere in the world.

b) One thing that stands out (if one is unaware of racialist movements in Europe)–most racist activity in Europe so far has been from “odinists” and “Satanists” in the black-metal community (and are largely doing it in a pattern of occasionally bloody attention-whoredom) or from blatantly neo-Nazi groups. A group or person claiming a “Conservative Christian” basis for this, especially in Europe, stands out like a sore thumb; generally (unlike the US) there has not been a tradition of “racist right” churches like Christian Identity that claim to be “Bible-based”.

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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:16 PM
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1. K&R
and thanks
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:19 PM
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2. K&R
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 02:20 PM by Adsos Letter
Edited to add: In the 21st century, Christian churches don't have nearly the draw in Europe as in America
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:24 PM
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5. Which is a good thing.
I don't have anything against Christians, per se, but these Dominionists freak me out.

Sarah Palin is a card-carrying member; Rick Perry, as well, I would guess.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:30 PM
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9. Michelle Bachmann is a card carrying member
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:33 PM
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11. So is Palin; so are lots of 'em.
"The Price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance." one version of Jefferson's famous quote
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:30 PM
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10. And you do well to be freaked out by Dominionist theology, Blue
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 02:34 PM by Adsos Letter
Freaks me out too, and I say that as a Christian. Church/State separation is a fundamental foundation stone for our freedom. I think this is especially relevant as we face the potential for national upheaval, and the empowerment of demagogues promising answers.

Edited to add a wave: :hi:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:36 PM
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13. To the Domionists, you are not a Christian
they would lock you up right alongside Atheists like me...
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:42 PM
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17. Even faster, I think. The Inquistion reserved its greatest wrath for "heretics," not unbelievers.
I am a firm believer in our Constitution, and as a semi-historian (MA in History) it infuriates me to see our history on these subjects twisted by the likes of christian "historians" like David Barton.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:47 PM
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20. Yes, didn't they go as far as to watch which way you crossed yourself?
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:59 PM
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21. I don't recall; it's certainly possible.
I just remember that the emphasis toward unbelievers was primarily evangelism; heretics were to be crushed as a threat to the "purity" of the institution, and a danger to the nation (God's wrath on the king and those whose welfare was his responsibility).
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:38 PM
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15. It's nice to see you, Adsos.
Are you done with your studies?
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:43 PM
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18. I am! Finished my MA in History last September.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:40 PM
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16. Palin is whacked-out Dominionist for sure.
I believe "The Rogue" by Joe McGinnis is going to expose her and these nut-jobs for everyone to see.
His book is out Sept. 20th and he PROMISES it will reveal her for what she is.
He is already being massively booked on TV network shows for interviews!
His publicist has bookings from Sept. thru October. He said the interest from MSM is intense!
I can hardly wait!
:woohoo:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:45 PM
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19. The Family is Dominionist
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:22 PM
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3. K&R
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:24 PM
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4. And Rick Perry's ties to Dominionists are clear. n/t
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:24 PM
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6. Yes, and Sarah Palin, for sure.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:27 PM
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8. Thanks very much for keeping that in front of us, Horse with no Name!
I'm going to go look for some twitter action on this topic.

:hi:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:35 PM
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12. Thank you, but Faryn Balanced has been the one on top of this
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:34 PM
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23. I don't understand. Does that mean others can't lead too? Power sharing is a good thing, though
it IS a good idea to know in some detail who each "leader" is and why they are leading.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:25 PM
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7. Kind of dense going that, but what it is is a "spiritual" geanology of the killer, from some
very serious researchers.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:37 PM
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14. I agree it's dense, but very important.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:30 PM
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22. Extremely! All of us need VERY much to know whom we're dealing with, because it is NOT a good
idea to punish the innocent! That, in fact, undercuts the very values and principles we SAY we are defending.

Thanks much; let's keep this effort up.

:hi:
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