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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:15 PM
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The entire mess in the United States was produced by George W Bush
That is all
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ocd liberal Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:17 PM
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1. Yes!
Yes, yes, yes yes!!! That's what I've been saying!
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:19 PM
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2. just two worthless wars, NCLB, $1.3 trillion deficits, financial crisis
Medicare Part D unpaid for, two irresponsible tax cuts, outing US Attorneys and CIA agents, DHS, and the Patriot Spy on America Act.

Aren't you being kind of harsh?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:22 PM
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4. You forgot the two wars
the mortgage mess, derivatives, financial collapse, stolen elections, Cheney, Rove - fear, fear, fear, terror, terror, terror - they were the terror and I'm so fugging fed up.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:45 PM
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17. practical exercises used to initiate the Shock Doctrine
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:19 PM
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3. At least the VAST majority was implemented under George W Bush
Some of our current issues actually predate George W Bush, but most of them were brought into fruition under his watch.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:23 PM
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5. True but he used a national tragedy to frighten people
while he and his friends looted the country
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:28 PM
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7. No argument from me there.
They used the emotional moments after 9/11 to fast track their agenda in the country. His was a presidency which will not be treated kindly by historians. Actually, it's already being eviscerated by many scholars.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:23 PM
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6. Is THAT what they mean by "Texas Taint"?
Just askin'
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:36 PM
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11. Yes and Rick Perry drank the same KoolAid
:fistbump:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:30 PM
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8. Yes Indeed! And we can thank the stinkin' SCOTUS for that!
:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr: I will never forgive them for what they did. That court is no longer held in high esteem by me. :grr:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:32 PM
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9. That's too easy, I'm afraid.
At a minimum, Conservadems bought into Reaganomics and joined the Thuggery in selling them to us. Which is why Obama is going to talk about deficit reduction and not about jobs in his next speech.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:34 PM
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10. Bush killed the golden goose; before that, they just tried starving it.
It could have been an agonizingly long death, but Bush went in a said, "Let's get the fortune hidin' in them entrails." Except he might more likely say "innards" when we all know it as "kishkes."

--imm
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:37 PM
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12. Mess produced by GWB, written by Ronald Reagan, prologue by GHWB,
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 03:39 PM by Urban Prairie
theme scored by SCOTUS, and directed by Cheney, along with his cast of Neocons

And the potential sequel now being written by the teabaggers.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:38 PM
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13. No...
...what produced the mess was what allowed Bush to occupy the Oval Office. It started even before he pretended to stop drinking.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:41 PM
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14. No.
The entire mess in the United States has been created by neoconservatism and neoliberalism, and it could be created because voters cast their votes for politicians who dis-serve the nation.

IMO, the current insanity started with Ronald Reagan. What we are seeing today is simply the inevitable extension of what he started.

And it is enabled and extended by too many politicians and voters in BOTH parties.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:24 PM
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23. Valid point but the stolen election
9/11, the illegal war and the Patriot Act allowed them to implement the RW policies.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:57 PM
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29. Yes.
Of course, the previous couple of decades set up those actions.

Clinton didn't slow them down much; he earned the title "Best Republican President" for a reason.

I was in 8th grade through Watergate and Nixon's resignation. Everyone, including me, was thrilled to see the resignation.

Ronald Reagan makes Nixon look like what constitutes the supposed "far left fringe" in the U.S..

The only Democrats we've elected to the Oval Office since Reagan have been enablers, moving the agenda steadily forward.

I think Clinton's lost the "best republican president" moniker. It has to go to Barack Obama, who has helped neoliberals and neoconservatives move their agenda forward at a much faster pace than they did under GWB.

GWB had some opposition. Weak opposition, it's true, but better than nothing. While there's a Democrat promoting this shit, opposition from Congress has been, until very recently, non-existent. This administration has chosen to keep and support way too many of the things we saw come about under GWB; the Patriot Act being a prime example.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:46 PM
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34. Unfortunately, the illegal war and the Patriot Act were supported by our side.
And continue to be.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:43 PM
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:43 PM
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16. And his ilk. nt
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:51 PM
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18. By Reagan, both Bushes, and Clinton
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 03:51 PM by Spider Jerusalem
the laissez-faire neoliberalism and light-touch financial regulation, repeal of the Glass-Steagall act, signing of NAFTA, most-favoured trading status with China, and so on? That all happened under Clinton. Because Clinton embraced a modified Reaganite economics as a path to election and political power; that's what the so-called Third Way was all about (fun fact: Members of the UK Labour Party visiting Washington in the mid-'80's were quite impressed with the policy syntheses of the Democratic Leadership Council and Third Way politics, among them a certain Mr Blair...who proceeded with his colleagues and followers to follow the same blueprint for repositioning his party to the socio-economic right and to implement broadly similar policies once in power).

Reagan gets the blame for starting the ball rolling, but if I had to rank the Presidents of the past 30 years in order of their ultimate responsibility for the present US and global financial crisis? Reagan, Bush the lesser, Clinton, Bush the elder.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:05 PM
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21. +1 (nt)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:52 PM
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19. k&r...
but the media and republicans have selective amnesia
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:53 PM
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20. You mean that war criminal in Texas who walks around a free man?
Bush didn't just happen....years and years of bullshit conservatism and American delusion (never prosecuting criminal Presidents because,
somehow, America will do better next time. SNORT) brought him into being. Not to mention the craven and corrupt politicians in Congress when Bush was in office.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:22 PM
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22. not really ...
it started in the mid to late 70`s and it`s been down hill since. in the late 70`s the banks refused to loan heavy industry money to make new machines that made the machines. by the mid 80`s most of the machines were had reached their limits. i made barbed wire and the machine`s frame was built in 1890. the new machines were built in germany and japan. most of the heavy metal forming machines i used were made in the 30`s and 40`s. today none of those machines are made in the usa.

nixon opened china. carter started deregulation and the future oil wars. reagan continued the wars in the middle east and the americas.bush and clinton waged war on the people of iraq and sided with dictators across the world and then came george...
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:25 PM
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24. GWB was the catalyst to our downfall.
Maybe not the source, but he did tip us over the edge with his destructive policies.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:58 PM
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27. That's my essential point
and they stole the election to further neo-liberalism and the RW agenda
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:56 PM
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25. It started back with Ronny Saint Raygun
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:57 PM
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26. Well, with a little help from his friends ...
and a major push by his successors in both parties.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:00 PM
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28. That is so true . . . gee, wonder when the MSM will pick up on it and report?
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 06:39 PM
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30. Initiated, but somehow we are still contiuing his wars, tax cuts and lies.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:13 PM
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31. Ah, No
W had LOTS of help. It was in fact, a vast, right-wing, self-styled Elite conspiracy, some of whom masquerade as DINOS. And it's been building ever since McCarthy, after FDR shut the oligarchic fascists down for the duration of the Depression and WWII.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:15 PM
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:44 PM
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33. Yup.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:13 AM
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35. Yup. n/t
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:40 AM
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36. Why bring this up now? Do you have an agemda?
Or what?

LoL

Agemda, I lurv it.
Peepl woo cnt spel.

Bush was the worst president in the history of the United States.
But, not according to the mainstream media.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:45 AM
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37. Actually, the mess he made is far bigger than that...
My friends in Australia and New Zealand say Junior is responsible for the financial mess their countries are in right now too.

I imagine a good part of the world feels the same way.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:14 PM
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38. Rec but a big no. It's important to know you enemy and it isnt hapless GWBush.
As long as you think that, you are distracted from our real enemy. The corporatists on both sides of the isle are our enemy. Bush and Cheney slinked out of Washington the DC, not because we beat them, but because our corporate overlords were thru with them.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:19 PM
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39. True but who did their bidding better than
Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 03:34 PM by malaise
Bush and Cheney?

sp
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:26 PM
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40. Bush and Cheney were merely pawns. They are gone but the problem is worse than ever. nm
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