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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:35 PM
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Glenn Beck - Right Wing is different in Europe than U.S. RW
While Beck’s Hitler Youth comment is shocking (sure, he’s never been a fan of left-wing groups “indoctrinating” children but, come on, a bunch of teenagers were just murdered), his other comments were just as interesting. Just like John Bolton and the friends of Fox & Friends, Beck made his case for why we can’t consider terrorist Anders Behring Breivik “right-wing.”

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“This was one of the episodes where I showed the railroad tracks that were different than America. In America, the Left railroad track is gigantic government – it could be Communist or Fascist, it doesn’t matter, it’s giant government. The other side of the track is anarchy or very, very small government. So that’s the Left and Right here in America. The Left and Right in Europe, because, once they got rid of the kings, they didn’t get ‘We the People,’ they had to replace it with another strong government. And that’s where Fascism and Communism came from. That’s your Left and Right. Fascism on the Right; Nazis. And Communism on the Left. And there are variations on both of those theories, Fascism and Communism, Left and Right. This guy, the shooter, is from the right-wing, different than our right-wing. It is still big government.”

So you see, whenever you hear people saying Breivik is “right-wing,” just remember that he’s actually just a big government guy. Like, I don’t know, who’s for big government…who is Breivik more like in America…what’s the implication here?

Too soon. Whenever a tragedy happens, someone will try to profit from it instantly. We no longer just have terrorists. If they’re not Muslims, we see both political parties instantly try to push the guy onto the “other team.” It happened after our shooting in Arizona and now it’s happening with a shooting and bombing half a world away.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/too-soon-glenn-beck-compares-attacked-norway-camp-to-%E2%80%98hitler-youth%E2%80%99/

KO is right in comparing you to Lonesome Rhodes!
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:41 PM
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1. +1 to Glenn Beck for admitting the Nazis were RW
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:42 PM
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2. He is due beer and travel money !
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:46 PM
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3. If this guy killed of a future generation of Hitler Youth
than he did a GOOD thing, right, Glenn?

:crazy:
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:14 PM
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4. Breivik is right wing because of his views on immigration. He seems to support the welfare state,
the safety net and the high taxes that go with supporting them. He doesn't seem to be particularly pro-capitalism or anti-socialism. He is not unhappy about the size of government which in Norway is a much larger part of society than ours is in the US. (At least I haven't heard any reports that his 1500 page manifesto mentions those issues at all.)

What makes him right wing in Europe is his opposition to immigration. Opposition to immigration is the issue that the populist right wing political parties have used effectively to enhance their political power over the last few years. Liberal political parties in Europe have constructed generous immigration systems over the decades. It is this that the right wing parties rebel against and that motivated Breivik.

He may well be a "big government guy", but it is Breivik's racism and nativism (manifested in his violent opposition to immigration) that makes him a right winger. AFAIK he accepts Norway's commitment to national health care, strong unions, high and progressive taxes and a strong social safety net. The one thing he rejects is Norway's commitment to liberal immigration laws and the promotion of multiculturalism.
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