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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:19 AM Original message |
If no deal comes on debt limit, President Obama needs to invoke 14th admendment |
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catbyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. I wish he had the guts to do it, but I am sinking into deep despair |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Sadly I agree. |
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catbyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. He's like Charlie Brown & Lucy keeps yanking the football away |
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seabeckind (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Ahah! Got you right where they want you. n/t |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Obama may have to, but it would be a political disaster for him... |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Why would he own it? He has to tell pple their interest rates will skyrocket w/o it |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. You know without major budget cuts we may well be downgraded anyway? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. No, it's his constitutional duty. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. and p.s. let the house impeach him, the senate won't convict him and being impeached by the GOP |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Exactly - and timing on the announcement is everything. |
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N7Shepard (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Not yet grasshopper. |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. The Supreme Court could rule it illegal. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. The constitution is pretty clear on that point. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. In my experience, when lawyers claim the constitution is clear on a disputed point |
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renegade2011 (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Irrelevant: |
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renegade2011 (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
7. Agreed: |
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N7Shepard (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. That's why he needs to do it if an acceptable bill doesn't get |
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PotatoChip (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. I agree. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. When faced with the consequences of default, the risks of executive action are trivial. |
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Shrek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. Suppose he does what you suggest |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
17. its unclear that the 14th amendment solution would stave off some of the worst effects of default |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
19. i want him to to a jujitsu on their asses using the 14th amendment |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
20. He has already said he won't. We're screwed. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
21. As an alternate to invoking the 14th amendment, could he create |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. The president does not get to decide that a law is unconstitutional |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. No, but he does have to do his best to uphold the constitution. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 10:17 AM Original message |
Maybe and maybe not. Of course I have little faith in the |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
28. dupe. |
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