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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:13 AM
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What do you do if you’re “lazy” and poor , but decide to get a job?
Job listings say the unemployed need not apply

Hundreds of job opening listings posted on Monster.com and other jobs sites explicitly state that people who are unemployed would be less attractive applicants, with some telling the long-term unemployed to not even bother with applying.

The New York Times' Catherine Rampell said she found preferences for the already employed or only recently laid off in listings for "hotel concierges, restaurant managers, teachers, I.T. specialists, business analysts, sales directors, account executives, orthopedics device salesmen, auditors and air-conditioning technicians." Even the massive University of Phoenix stated that preference, but removed the listings when the Times started asking questions.

The concerted shunning of unemployed Americans by prospective employers was a common theme that cropped up in the thousands of responses that poured in when we asked Yahoo! readers to share their experiences of unemployment for our "Down But Not Out" series.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/job-listings-unemployed-not-apply-133143362.html
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:15 AM
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1. Never has that hoary old saying damned if you do and damned if you
don't meant so much...
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Jon Ace Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:15 AM
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2. Revolt? (nt)
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:20 AM
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3. Because there's nothing so attractive in a prospective employee
as knowing he/she is actively looking to leaving his current job. :crazy:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:08 AM
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16. That is another one of those things that make you shake your head
It goes against what an employer wants in an employee yet they will only hire someone leaving another place.

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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:39 AM
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17. There is some sense to it
Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 11:40 AM by hack89
if you assume that the other company, just like mine, used lay offs to get rid to their under performers. That implies (at least to some hiring managers) that employed = top quality. Therefore, if you want to hire top talent you go poach it from another company.

My company laid off some people last year. We are hiring now but it was made clear that most of those laid off last year were not welcomed back. We have hired some people that were not employed but there was a clearly stated intention by management that they were going to use this unemployment situation to upgrade our work force. To their credit, they are offering excellent wages and benefits.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:21 AM
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4. couple posters here defending it in another thread
it will make you angry if you hate lies.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:30 AM
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7. Which thread?
Just logged on this morning. Depending on what's said, I might be itching for a fight.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:40 AM
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8. here
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:44 AM
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9. Thank you.
I'll look it over momentarily, after I get the bread in the oven.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:00 AM
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13. Good grief!
Some pretty cold responses there. :thumbsdown:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:47 AM
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11. Just. WOW.
DAMN.

I'm perusing that thread now . . . there is some pretty clueless and heartless shit staining it.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:48 AM
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12. +1
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:22 AM
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5. lazy and poor...beats being cheap,selfish and rich...nt
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:25 AM
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6. This part is so sad:
Even if the practice of weeding out unemployed applicants doesn't fit the legal definition of discrimination, it sure feels unfair for the more than 6.3 million Americans who have been out of work for more than six months to be told they are automatically disqualified for the few openings that are out there. "I feel like I am being shunned by our entire society," Kelly Wiedemer, an unemployed information technology specialist, told the Times.

~empahsis added



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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:44 AM
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10. If I was in that situation, I'd lie. I'd maintain that I was currently employed and give my
friends cell numbers as my supervisor or hr department. I'd create fake websites for the company. I wouldn't have any ethical problem lying in that situation.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:03 AM
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14. or I would make my own job
Preferably in a field that is in direct competition to the suckers who won't hire. A consultant, if nothing else.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:06 AM
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15. Put down self employed
Make up a job that you do everyday anyway and call yourself self employed.

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