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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:21 PM
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WTF happened? I was out for a couple of hours, came back to all the headlines about Boner losing his
House people, they DON"T LIKE HIS PLAN?

Now what? Will the President please hold another prime time thingy to lay into them? Call them crazy mother fuckers? Remind the American people about voting the next time around so that the lunatics/terrorists are NOT in Congress next time?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:27 PM
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I hope the TV/Cable news media is actually informing people of what is going on
Rather than pretending that the House People have a legitimate point of view. But that is a hell of a lot to hope for.
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:30 PM
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3. We need to be PAGING Axelrod, Plouffe...etc. Need to see commercials on TV in every market
blasting these people, running clips of them talking crazy...etc.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:20 PM
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9. Axlerod and Plouffe are really part of the problem. Never underestimate the ability of the Prez and

his staff to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:52 PM
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14. Plouffe was pretty damn good last night IMHO.
Saw him on Lawrence O'Donnell, LO was asking hard questions too.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:53 PM
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16. Yeah, because with Axelrod and Plouffe, Obama ran such a lousy campaign. In fact, it was SOOO bad
that he lost to the Clinton *and* Rove machines!!

:sarcasm:
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:30 PM
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20. It was a nice campaign but it was just that. A campaign. The rhetoric has proven empty.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:57 PM
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23. I disagree!! Give him more progressives/liberals and less Blue Dogs,
DLCers and GOP, and you'll get more progressive/liberal policy outcomes. I'm 100% convinced by this. It takes Congress to pass legislation. The president doesn't have a blank check. That check is in the hands of the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate, NOT the president.

We MUST learn what the U.S. Constitution says!!! The "power of the purse" lays with Congress, specifically the U.S. House, NOT the president!!!
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:26 PM
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11. The 'House People' (by which I assume you mean the Tea Baggers)
Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 03:27 PM by coalition_unwilling
have a legitimate point of view, i.e., that it is morally appropriate and worth it to force a global economic crisis and U.S. constitutional crisis over the government's right and duty to issue debt. I disagree with that point of view, but it's certainly legitimate. Or, I should say, as legitimate in a nation groudned upon due process of the law as not investigating the Bush Junta for crimes against humanity and war crimes on the specious grounds of needing to look forward rather than backward.
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:58 PM
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17. Sorry, Teabagger blackmail is not and never will be legitimate.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:27 PM
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1. no worry, Cantor told them to buck and vote Thrus for bone's bill. all is well.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:29 PM
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2. FWIW:WH/OMB has now issued veto threat on Boehner deficit bill.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=439&topic_id=1581415&mesg_id=1581415

However, does Cantor have any hold over these nuts? I was listening to the teabag house people talking last night, their view is

- default would not be so bad
- we have the money to pay our debts, we just need to slash all spending of "wasteful government programs"
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:15 PM
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7. all the more reason for them to pass Boner's prop and then
somehow us it against the Dems/WH. IMHO.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:21 PM
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10. Cantor IS one of those nuts!
That, and you can almost see the drool running out of his mouth as he's repeating "Speaker of the House Cantor" to himself, over and over and over...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:32 PM
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4. Lots of "his people" are recalcitrant toddlers who only know how to
hold their breath, stamp their feet and holler "NO!".
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:26 PM
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12. They're probably also proficient at taking their ball and going home just like when
they were on the playground with the other kids.

They might have grown up physically, but that's about it.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:35 PM
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5. More proof that Republicans can not govern!
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:11 PM
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6. +1000
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:41 PM
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13. +1000000
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:19 PM
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8. The next set of demands by the House Tea Party assholes
Even if Obama accepts Boner's current plan and caves, their next set of demands will be to have Obama personally come to their homes, wash the windows, scrub the floors, shine their shoes, and then pick cotton on their plantations. If he does that, maybe then they'll agree to raise the debt ceiling. But even then...
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:53 PM
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15. Didn't you hear? He's "the speaker of the WHOLE HOUSE"

Lol
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:54 PM
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21. Yeah, that was very funny....
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 05:00 PM
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22. He mis-read the teleprompter. The text was "whore house" /nt
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:01 PM
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18. Sprechen Sie Douche, Herr Boenherr? n/t
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:04 PM
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19. No. No. They voted these mutha fucka's IN!! Deal with it!! n/t
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:53 PM
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24. If only he would do that, Change Happens.
He wouldn't even criticize the Tea Party by name last night. Instead, it was a "Washington problem."

Obama needs to grow a pair.
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