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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:18 PM
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Magnanimous
–adjective
1.
generous in forgiving an insult or injury; free from petty resentfulness or vindictiveness: to be magnanimous toward one's enemies.
2.
high-minded; noble: a just and magnanimous ruler.
3.
proceeding from or revealing generosity or nobility of mind, character, etc.: a magnanimous gesture of forgiveness.


This used to be considered a just and desirable attribute, especially for leaders.. Is it still?

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:55 PM
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1. funny you should mention this...i'm 3 hours late coming home from work (pretty usual)
b/c magnanimity is NOT a trait possessed by anyone in "business culture."

today i made the mistake (at the end of a grueling day) of handing a broker the wrong version of a proposal I've working on all day. simple mistake -- give me a second and I'll get you the correct version.

his response? "THIS IS NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR." and threw it at me. while i was telling him "whoops, wrong one," he continues to go thru the pages pointing out (no shit) that "THIS IS NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR."

Let me add that this proposal was dropped on me as a crisis this morning b/c he's going on vacation -- so I rearrange MY day to accommodate him and take shit from all my other brokers b/c their stuff is getting pushed back.

Magnanimity is not an American Business value. Hell, simply being human is not a American Business Value.

And since government is now supposed to be run as a business, it's my expectation that leaders feel it's the right/good thing to do, to be as unmagnanimous as possible, because magnanimity is apparently a sign of weakness.

(sorry -- had to vent)
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:44 PM
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2. yes it's a desirable quality though rare.
I do see Obama in this light which is why I continue to have some faith in him even though I don't understand much of what he's doing. I believe his integrity is solid and that he continually strives for a high standard, despite the sinister motives many project on him.

Magnanimity benefits the magnanimous most of all. To live free of shallowness, meanness, and what Socrates called a considered life. Authentic nobility isn't a show quality, and not fueled by ego.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:52 PM
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3. I don't give so much credence to being magnanimous out of someone else's hide.
There is nothing to be admired about suffering fools to the great detriment of who and what you have sworn to protect nor is their greatness in taking bread from a poor man's mouth to give a rich man an extra penny or two to show your generosity.

Certainly nothing in the the definition of magnanimous says peep about accepting lies and failed beliefs again to the detriment of the people and our long espoused ideals.
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