Job listings say the unemployed need not apply

Source: Yahoo - The Lookout

Hundreds of job opening listings posted on Monster.com and other jobs sites explicitly state that people who are unemployed would be less attractive applicants, with some telling the long-term unemployed to not even bother with applying.

The New York Times' Catherine Rampell said she found preferences for the already employed or only recently laid off in listings for "hotel concierges, restaurant managers, teachers, I.T. specialists, business analysts, sales directors, account executives, orthopedics device salesmen, auditors and air-conditioning technicians." Even the massive University of Phoenix stated that preference, but removed the listings when the Times started asking questions.



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This sentiment among employers may be more common than you think. My company frowns upon hiring the unemployed, because "there must be a reason why he/she is still unemployed". We just don't publicize that fact like those employers on Monster are currently doing. Don't agree with it or proud of the fact that my company feels this way, but it is true.

So I say fuck them.

Sadly in this job market we don't all have that luxury.

Office help wanted. Over qualified need not apply.

G'damn it. :wtf: are people supposed to do???!!

Great way to start a job, with the 'actually have an advanced degree and years of experience' skeleton in my closet . . .

:(

education and past experiences. He shut up quickly when I asked how I was supposed to account for the years represented by my graduate study and employment in that field.

That businesses are doing this is yet more proof that american capitalism is destined to doom itself.

do not want to work and just want their benefits. Checks do not give them the incentive to work. we had fed grant money which could have been used since april but the repugs in the legislature have not okayed it. So in other words they are lazy is the theme.

and want to move back home to New York. Would New Yorker employers hold that against me? At any rate, it would be the truth.

BTW, my daughter did just this 2 years ago. She was hired from just a phone interview while she was still living in Florida. They gave her 3 weeks to move and start working.

you assume that the other company used lay offs to get rid to their under performers - it does make sense that companies would hold on to their best employees. That implies (at least to some hiring managers) that employed = top quality. Therefore, if you want to hire top talent you go poach it from another company. Many strong companies are using this unemployment situation to upgrade their work force and get a leg up on their competition as the economy recovers.

Not saying it is right - but I have heard this several times from HR professionals.


on edit: for people that depend on personal contacts like salesmen and business developers, the assumption is that after a period of unemployment, all your contacts are stale and useless.

Some PTT work before the final 3 yrs.: Dumping re-cycleables in exchange for a cafe food tab. Then nothing. And they want me to delay SS retirement for how many years? What is anyone supposed to do when they are line-itemed out of the workforce while still in their 50s? Burn through savings? I started drawing SS last May.

this. There was a more in depth piece done by NPR on this subject a
couple months ago.

The reason for it is because companies want people who have current
connections in their field (mostly clients for salesmen)and who are up-to-date on the latest industry
trends/information.

I can believe that these traits have always been sought after, just never actually stated in
black and white. Guess with a flooded labor pool they have the luxury of selecting from the
top.

A guy complained his business was busy and needed help. I commented that it seemed odd he couldn't find help with unemployment being what it is. His response was that people tended to be unemployed for a reason.

But this is only because it is a profession, (consulting for banks), that over the last
15 years has never slowed despite recessions. Guess because of the trend to hire contractors
without benefits. Which is a WHOLE other subject that pisses me off. Anyway, since there
are so many openings, if you are out of work for a long time, there is usually a reason.

I wrote them and called several times over a period of a year and was told it would be removed only to find it still there at the next time of Google caching.

I was happy to join at the time because I support their mission, but didn't know they would publish my name on the Net as a member without asking me first. They were only to just provide it to other members in the local area. This is what they stated at the time when I joined. Then they published my name without my permission.

After imploring them and appearing to successfully have removed my name from an initial search, I now see that any search of Google cache will turn it up.

I KNOW for a FACT I have been turned down for some positions (as a former six figure professional here) because my affiliation as a member of "the unemployed" is published internationally by an organization that should have known better.

I told them, I WILL GIVE YOU MONEY ONCE I HAVE EMPLOYMENT, BUT YOUR POLICY IS MAKING IS CLOSE TO IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO EVER BE EMPLOYED AGAIN.

I agree that it shouldn't matter, but we're talking food stamps and free and reduced lunch here--of nearly losing my house until the mortgage protection program kicked in, thank God, at least for a year or so. If I were really cynical I'd think U-Cubed works for headhunters who wanted a permanent list of people who have had any long-term unemployment.

I think that they throw us on the rubbish heap when we hit our 40s.

So now, after picking up scraps of work here and there, I'm just hanging on by the skin of my teeth for another 500 or so days (but who's counting?) until I take my early Social Security retirement -- assuming it still exists in 500 or so days, of course.

Needless to say, this is not quite the way I intended to finish my career...

made it a practice to hire the majority of its workers out of circumstances that might otherwise have made them unemployable. We hired people that had been out of the workforce for extended periods of time. We hired high school dropouts. We hired homeless people. We hired people with health problems, family problems, scheduling problems, criminal histories and chemical dependency problems. The vast majority of them were great employees who appreciated the opportunity to work. In a lot of ways many of them outperformed more traditional employees.

That said it ought to be illegal to discriminate in employment on the basis of one's employment status. People often have to leave the workforce for a period of time for various reasons. That ought not eliminate them from consideration for employment. It is entirely possible to be out of the workforce and yet maintain technical competence, work skills and current knowledge of the field.