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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:00 AM
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The media is nervous.
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 12:06 AM by neverforget
The media is doing its damnedest to make it look like both sides do this type of over the top vitriol. You know why they're doing this? Because they haven't been doing their jobs as journalists. They let politicians repeat BS and rarely, if ever, are called out on it. Just today, Rep Franks (R-AZ) was on Meet the Press with David Gregory. Did The Villager Gregory ask him about this comment from http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5350756-503544.html">September 29, 2009? That would be a NO. Here's what Franks said in 2009:

"Obama's first act as president of any consequence, in the middle of a financial meltdown, was to send taxpayers' money overseas to pay for the killing of unborn children in other countries. Now, I got to tell you, if a president will do that, there's almost nothing that you should be surprised at after that. We shouldn't be shocked that he does all these other insane things. A president that has lost his way that badly, that has no ability to see the image of God in these little fellow human beings, if he can't do that right, then he has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity."

Franks spokesman Bethany Haley said the congressman was referring to "unborn humanity," according to the Associated Press, and should have been more clear. She added that Franks was saying the president's abortion policies have "no place in any station of government," not that the president himself should have no place in the government.

She added to the AP that Franks "was just referring to the way President Obama has set himself up as the most pro-abortion president in America's history."


A journalist would ask the logical question to Rep Franks: "What do you do with an enemy of humanity? What is the logical consequence of saying someone is an enemy of humanity? Are you afraid of someone taking this literally and doing something?" Since Gregory didn't ask him about this, we won't know. But you have to wonder why he didn't know about it or he just chose not to ask him. A journalist would have researched the subject to be interviewed but today's journalists are too busy making nice with those in power. It's a cozy relationship that provides access to the politicians while putting the politicians on TV and not making too many waves. If they make waves, the access ends and they're not a member of the Inside the Beltway Village.

This is how they get away with the false equivalency bullshit. See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. If the media doesn't talk about it, then it didn't happen (for them). Lie by omission or play dumb. Thus the vitriol and lies gets to be repeated again and again without consequence.

--edited spelling--
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:04 AM
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1. They should be nervous, they helped create the shooter and the environment.
I expect NOT A ONE of them to take any kind of responsibility though...that would require human emotions.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:07 AM
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3. And they are handling this tragedy per their M.O. n/t
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:32 PM
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41. Yup. Gave the Tea Party undue air time and barely any coverage of the anti-war protests even though
we outnumbered the TPers by hundreds of thousands. And when they did cover the protests they gave equal time to the 4 bozos who were out there supporting war.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:06 AM
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2. The MSM thinks their job is to build up the fringe in order to create enough fear
..... among rational people so that they are more accepting of the far right's policies.

This has been obvious as soon as Obama was sworn in.

They are nervous now because the backlash against the extremist fringe threatens their objective.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:08 AM
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5. Exactly. It'll hurt their ratings which is what this is all about.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:08 AM
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16. well, not so much *their* objective, but rather, that of their owners
good little lapdogs that they are.

No offense to actual lapdogs, btw...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:08 AM
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4. So, push back everywhere we can. It's time now. n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:09 AM
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17. Yep.
This has come to a head. It's time we point out their complicity in this.
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rbrnmw Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:25 AM
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19. +1000
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:08 AM
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6. I took a once-in-a-blue-moon look at Fox, of all things

I normally can't stand it for more than a minute or so.

But I wanted to see what Bill Kristol had to say.

I don't know if he always looks the way he did tonight, but he struck me as very nervous, unsteady, and shaken. Very unlike the youtube clips of him confidently slinging BS.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:04 AM
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24. I had to peek last night and Geraldo disagreed with the spin!
He was talking about Jesse Jelly's election photos with all of his guns. The other guy was saying he was just showing off that he was a veteran. G. told him that was ridiculous and any show of guns in political photos was stupid.
The spin is not in lockstep!!
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:08 AM
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7. They out to be nervous for their complicity in this by NOT calling
BS, not asking the tough questions, not being journalists.

And that goes for all of the Republican lapdogs who have been so afraid of riling Princess Palin and and Douchebag Limpballs.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:12 AM
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9. Good point. The cowardice of RW leadership share in the blame. They are afraid of Rush. n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 12:13 AM by deacon
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:15 AM
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11. If they do cross Rush, they go to him and beg for forgiveness.
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:09 AM
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8. MSM is in partnership
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 12:12 AM by howaboutme
with government, politicos, bankers and corporations. They have no interest whatsoever in rocking the boat or biting the hand that feeds them. They sponsor and pay pundits millions to divide and incite the huddled masses so that the PTB are able to plunder and rape with impunity.

The media could have easily fired up the public regarding the Wall Street bankers by publishing the facts and misdeeds, but instead they covered most of it up, and the rest is history......more for the bankers and less for us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
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elias49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:15 AM
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10. True. And nervous they should be.
The MSM get less relevant with each passing day. The heady days of loading the vans and racing to the scene are soon to be a bit of American nostalgia.
A dozen people probably have cell-phone video of yesterday's tragedy in Arizona.
And in seconds, a dozen-dozen could have the same footage.
In Australia. Or Chicago, Illinois.

They'll continue to to propagandize but there's less strength to their brew. And I, for one, won't miss a single one of the megalomaniacs - left, right or fundamentally idiotic - that pose as newsmen and newswomen when they find it's time to get a real job.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:22 AM
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12. Either the right wing and the corporate media either don't know or don't care
that you don't have to literally say that you want somebody injured and/or killed for somebody to "get the message." If you are telling everybody that the President is "Hitler" or some kind of "tyrant", then what you are suggesting is that people are essentially screwed and have no legal and/or political recourse with which to express their grievances. What needs to happen next? Well, like the teabaggers are fond of saying, "The tree of liberty needs to be replenished with the blood of tyrants" (paraphrasing). Well, what would any semi-thinking person take THAT to mean?
Conservatives, I have to admit, are great at playing the victim and they even manage to find ways to do it when they're completely in control of everything. They claimed that the Democrats were trying to steal the election in Florida in 2000 despite holding all levers of power within the state. Hell, the first six years when the Republicans controlled WH and Congress, they still acted as though the Democrats were ruining everything for everybody. They LOVE to play up the anti-Christian "oppression" card all of the time too despite the fact that nearly every officeholder in the country is affiliated with the Christian church in some way or another, even among Democrats.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:27 AM
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13. The MSM plays dumb. If they question it, then they risk losing access to
the powerful.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:27 AM
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20. Precisely.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:30 AM
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14. The RW may have been rowdy guests, but the media hosted the party.
As the old saying goes, "If a tree falls in a forest when nobody is around, does it make a sound?"

The media has long assured that RW hate rhetoric gets maximal exposure, to the point of encouraging more of it. That's why the media is so determined to invent the "the left does it to" argument; so that they can paint themselves as an impartial party caught between the two sides. When it comes to hate speech that is absolutely not the case, and they know it. They are just as culpable as the RW themselves.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:04 AM
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15. This may be off topic
Would this be a good time to demand that rush limbaugh be taken off Armed Forces Radio??
Seeing he spews so much hate
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:44 AM
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21. I remember some time back he was on there. So he still is. That's bad news.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:14 PM
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33. I think he should be taken off there. He's among the worst of the right
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:21 AM
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18. He probably thinks its OK if you bomb and kill the mothers
with the fetuses in their bodies.

The Pukes have done more abortions in record time than all of the doctors rolled into one.

If the mother has no choice, they don't call it abortion.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 02:37 AM
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22. well,
blood is on their hands too. we just had a teahadist summer. they too killed that little girl.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:56 AM
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23. knr
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:29 AM
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25. Do something about it
just talking about it won't change a thing, but demanding action will: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x154814
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:40 AM
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31. I'm going to write and call my Rep and Senators about this
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:32 AM
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26. I just saw a story about violent political rhetoric on CBS.
They managed to find many Democratic examples and 1 (one) Republican example. The gist of the story was that both sides are equally responsible. These fuckers make me sick.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:13 AM
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28. Of course! They're afraid of the Republicans but not Democrats.
The one side using violent imagery (guns, targets, liberal hunting permit) and rhetoric (enemy of humnanity, immmoral, unAmerican, etc) is the right wing.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:20 AM
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27. "The media" -- i.e. the highly paid mouthpieces -- take their
take their orders from their bosses.

you don't see their bosses.

therefore, you don't blame the bosses; therefore, the mouthpieces & talking heads will take the fall when things go wrong, but the bosses never do.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:40 AM
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32. yup.. they have scripts & contracts..
They will toe the line & huff & puff for a while & then they will move to the next thing..accepting NO blame for any of it..
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:18 AM
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29. K&R ! //nt
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:55 AM
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30. No worries. Everyone will be repeating the equivalency mantra
Ad nauseam. And just about every one you know will follow their lead.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:15 PM
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39. From what I've read today, that appears to be the case.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:18 PM
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34. ...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:25 PM
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35. I hope so. It's long overdue.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:31 PM
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36. "The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion."
I'm not the first one to make the observation, but it bears repeating.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:33 PM
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37. The Other Reason Why They're Nervous -- Lawsuits
They could be held liable in civil courts.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:35 PM
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38. The Media and the Astroturfing moneyed backers created the shockjocks and made them STARS
Of course, they are nervous and want to distance themselves from this.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:27 PM
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40. Kick
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:51 PM
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42. Kicking it one more time
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