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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:57 PM
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Why do so many Americans vote for anti government politicians?
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 06:59 PM by Middle finga
Why would you put people in charge of running the government who have nothing but hatred for the Government. It's quite baffling when you think about it. If you are an anarchist or you run a big business and you don't like being regulated, I can understand why you would vote for an anti government tea party politician. But if you are an ordinary citizen, you have to be insane to vote for someone who seem to have nothing but disdain for the U.S Government. That would be like a major corporation hiring a bunch communists and socialists to run the company or the Vatican selecting a group atheists to run the affairs of the Catholic Church. So to all the those folks around the country that voted for a Teabagger and you depend on the government for some type of payment or services, I hope you're happy with your vote.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:59 PM
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1. Propaganda
Lies and slander.

Couple that with voter suppression and disenfranchising and you have an electorate that is ripe for the picking. If that doesn't work, just steal the election.

That's how.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:53 AM
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24. It gets easier and easier for them now ...
over a quarter century now of the "liberal press" legitimizing the BS they have sold - a good chunk of our population now know their BS to be reality. Also, the country, more and more each day, moves to a mindset where there is no personal responsibility. The beauty of their BS is that it is ALL based on putting responsibility on someone else. It now like crack to a population that increasingly runs away from responsibility.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:10 PM
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2. Because they believe that school taught them
how "anti-government" the founding fathers where and they are trying to bring the "real" America back, aka the Repuke America. This is mostly because they slept through American History in school.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:15 PM
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3. It started with Reagan
And we only got Reagan, because John Wayne was dead.
I often keep asking myself that same question. I often credit it to mass insanity, and the fact that they are poisoning all of us with stuff like chemtrails. Perhaps there is something in those chemtrails.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:18 PM
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4. They've been told the government is the big bad incompetent evil. n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:30 PM
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5. Not 'told'. That is most people's direct experience with the government
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 07:31 PM by ixion
be it state, federal or even sometimes local. Government tends to be iron-fisted, uninterested in any extenuating circumstances, brutal if any of its rules are broken (depending on who breaks them), and labyrinthine on a good day. Is it any wonder that the general perception of government is negative?

Not really, in my opinion.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:33 PM
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6. Well, silly things like regulations and laws make it feel like we're under a giant boot. n/t
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:42 PM
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7. What Peurile Swill, Sir
My various interactions with government offices have been reasonable, predictable, not subject to undue delay, and friendly over-all.

Perhaps you are mistaking your cable company, or a bank, for a government agency?
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:52 PM
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8. I agree
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:38 PM
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11. It is not swill, sir
It is a valid perception, and a realistic description of many, albeit not all, interactions with the government. I do however congratulate you on your spotless record encountering only friendliness and predictability. Huzzah!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:39 PM
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12. No, Sir, It Is Not A 'Valid Perception', It Is Swill, A Mindless Right-Wing Talking Point
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:31 AM
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20. *sigh* It saddens me to hear such low talk from you, sir
There are people on all areas of the political spectrum that are unhappy with the government. So it is indeed valid, and is not a mindless talking point.

And if you insinuate that I'm RW again, I'm afraid I'll have to take this to the mods. I do believe I'm entitled to my opinion, even if you don't agree.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:36 AM
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26. You Are Pressing A Right-Wing Talking Point Here, Sir: We Both Know It
Alert all you like; it will not change the fact.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:55 PM
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29. No, sir. It is a simple and honest opinion
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 04:58 PM by ixion
that you apparently find distasteful. So be it.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:57 PM
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15. In 2009, I Was On Unemployment
I applied online. I gave a brief phone interview, and I started receiving checks within 4 weeks. Each week, I filed my claim online, and every week, I got another check. This went on for 11 months until I got a full time job.

I had no problems. No complaints. No hassles. No waiting in line. Nothing.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:33 AM
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21. Congrats.
Seriously. I'm glad you were able to get through the rough patch w/o the government adding to the trouble.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:58 PM
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16. My direct experience with governemtn has been different
I guess.

There is the city streets crew that fixed our main water main. Yes it was PITA while they did it, but it needed to be done.

When dealing with the military as a dependent I had all but good experiences.

Even the DMV has been pleasant. Yes, there is a line, yes bring a book, but even as overworked as the staff is, well they are doing their job and they are efficient about it.

My only bad experience involved an EMS crew that violated several protocols, but taking it to their supervisors was easy.

I guess... it is up to each experience. But I do not come into the affair prejudging.

Oh and yes I also ran a business for a while... and it was pretty easy actually.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:49 AM
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23. LOL ... You just described private health insurance ...
credit card companies ...

Fact is, the larger anything gets, the more impersonal it gets.

In my adult life I have had very few issues dealing with Government. I have had FAR more issues with things you describe with the private sector.

This myopic/demogoguing is what the right wing culls to get people to vote against GOOD government.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:09 AM
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19. Oh, boy. Ain't that the truth.
That creep, limbo jumbo, and his daily radio brainwashing sessions.

And that other rich beck bastid and all the fabricated faux nooze by that creepy murd-eR-och asshole...

How anyone having even at least a minimum of normally fonctional brain cells ever get themselves suckered into their batshit crazy zoo is beyond comprehension. :wow:
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:15 PM
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9. Paranoia and Fear sold to them by the elite
that manipulate the population into vote against their own interests.

http://texshelters.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/the-lie-behind-“cultural-marxism”-and-a-message-to-foolish-republican-nativists/

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:23 PM
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10. Because Rush, Sean, and Glennnn tell them to.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:48 PM
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13. Poor education coupled with lively anti-intellectualism leaves the
masses susceptible to demagoguery. That is what the TeaBaggers do, appeal to emotions (anger, frustration) and bypass reason. Consider this paradox: TeaBaggers think government is the problem, but run for public office in the government. If you can square that circle, you'll be a long way to deconstructing the bullshit edifices constructed by the demagogue party.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:54 PM
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14. They Don't Believe That They Benefit from Government
And, even if they do, some other person (read minority) gets a lot more than they do.

They feel that government takes away from them and gives it to minorities.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:01 AM
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17. It is sumarized in a sentence
"KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE!"

You see most people really do not realize that they are USING government services. Yes it is that simple and it is propaganda.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:03 AM
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18. Because government is broken
and they want somebody in there to -er- break it even more, because that how you...um... fix things?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:38 AM
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22. Same reason Bush once had a +90% approval rating
The majority of Americans are incapable of discerning their friends from their enemies.

Don
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 07:09 AM
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25. Because folks who RUN Gov't are corrupt tool of big business, & they've known how to play off that
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 07:12 AM by Leopolds Ghost
By electing demagogues who will preserve the natural order of the system. It's sort of like the Matrix in that regard.

This is not a conspiracy theory either... it all began in the Confederate south, with the elaborate political system set up there to preserve slavery and sharecropping through race-baiting and anti-union demagoguery in the face of the fact that 80% of southern whites were not slave owners.

The distinction between anarchists and libertarians is that anarchists do not want the country ruled by corporations.
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dameocrat67 Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:12 PM
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27. The two party system makes it impossible to punish a party that
is misbehaving without throwing the election to a party that has bad ideas. It is that simple really. We need to dispense with it.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:32 PM
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28. Our system of government is pre-Industrial Revolution. It dates from an agrarian period
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 12:55 PM by kenny blankenship
In 1787, most wealth was still created and represented in the same way it had been created in Roman times and in even more ancient eras: ownership of land. The founding fathers stood on the brink of the next age, but could not see it clearly. They were used to a very, very slow pace of change in the ways people made their lives and livelihoods. And they would not be likely to welcome rapid change either, but frequently expressed fear of it. Many especially feared that the institution of chattel slavery could be restricted or even abolished in centuries to come. They created therefore a system of government which resists change, and afforded men like themselves, the rich minority, a multiplicity of avenues and arenas in which to check and reverse changes forced by a landless majority. There was the Senate, above all, which men like themselves would simply buy representation in through patronage doled out in state legislatures. One Senator could stop the will of all representatives of the people of the states assembled in Congress.

Meanwhile time marched on. The Industrial Revolution came and went. The civilization in which Americans lived shifted its material basis from agriculture and its finite resources and eternally returning seasons to rapidly expanding manufacturing businesses, dominating the creation of wealth by selling goods that may not have even existed a quarter century before. The pace of life completely changed, but the system of government created by men used to the eternal, cyclical sameness of agriculture did not change with it. This government continued to resist changes by its nature, which was divided by design, although it was tasked with meeting the rapidly appearing problems that accompanied an ever accelerating industrial and post-industrial basis of civilization.

This antiquated form of government, designed NOT to be a fixer of problems, NOT to be an efficient and responsive servant of the people, and specifically designed to thwart majorities while privileging the rich minority, drove the common people gradually insane. In their frustration they became prone to extreme swings in sentiment - ironically descending into the situation the founding fathers most feared about "democracy" and had tried to prevent by designing an unresponsive and frustrating form of government. One year the People cry out for a champion against the abuses of the rich and the corruption of their representatives. Two years on, the reformers having failed to overcome the system's natural resistance to change, the popular sentiment swings back to pessimism about government and the people angrily demand government "crawl into a hole to die and just leave us alone".
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