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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:32 PM
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Details of Rival Plans on Spending and Debt
http://news.yahoo.com/details-rival-plans-spending-debt-181154389.html

"House Republicans and Senate Democrats are pressing competing plans to pair an increase in the nation's $14.3 trillion borrowing limit with spending cuts and to create a special committee to recommend bigger savings for a vote later this year.

In a change announced on Friday, House Republicans would make the bulk of the debt limit increase contingent on Congress adopting an amendment to the Constitution requiring a balanced budget and sending it to the states for ratification.

The chief difference is the size of the immediate increase in the debt limit. Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid's $2.4 trillion debt increase plan would keep the government afloat into 2013, while Republican House Speaker John Boehner's $900 billion increase would require action next year."


Highlights of the competing plans: See at link
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Amalea dQ Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:49 PM
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1. Let's make Congress do this first!
I am trying to find information as to the pay raises Congress voted for themselves during the GW Bush administration. If any of you have a listing of the House and Senate bills during the period, I would greatly appreciate a listing of them. I am particularly interested in how each Representative and Senator voted on their respective bills during the period. I, as a taxpayer, am not inclined to reward an abject failure of leadership with pay raises. Taking this country from a 200 plus billion dollar surplus to a multi-trillion dollar deficit in eight years is precisely such a failure. Frankly, I believe the policies of indebting and subsequently impoverishing the nation was planned for and done on purpose in order to starve social security, medicare and medicaid. Others may not believe in the purpose of those programs, but I believe they are and have been useful, necessary, and in keeping with the Preamble of the Constitution as it relates to "promote the General Welfare" of the nation. I am a veteran to took the same oath as the President, members of Congress, and the Supreme Court. To "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic". I believe that the first three words of the Constition do not read "We the Corporate Industrial Complexes", and that those who do are the domestic enemies of our Constitution. Unlike those who sit in the temples of our government, I will keep my vow. Corporations are not people. Never have been, never will be.

I know that Congress gave themselves pay raises for 7 out of the 8 years of the GW Bush administration, while "We the People" were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs monthly. I'm calling on everyone to call their favorite congressional target and demand that they pay back every cent of their pay raises AND return their salaries for ALL of Federal Government back to the year 2000. If government is spending too much then government should participate in the pain they are responsible for inflicting.


Can anyone out there help me obtain the information I seek?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:49 PM
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2. So they're both nearly identical plans. Both usher in major austerity measures.
Total kabuki bullshit.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:54 PM
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3. Will you have arsenic or strychnine in your coffee?
The only ones getting wet in this pissing contest between politicians are the people....as usual.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:47 PM
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4. Exactly! Just as planned.
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