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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:26 PM
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Some of the rich and super-Rich know, believe that no matter what happens, it will not affect them
Sure, they might take a slight hit in some of their stocks and other investments, but in the long run, with their vast holdings, and their mixed and varied portfolios, they probably have a point related to financial security.

The people I refer to, earn between $3million-$50million per year in "earned" income. Each owns several high priced, high powered, looking good automobiles. Each own several pieces of real estate and or rental property, and most travel by private jet or first class commercial when they absolutely must.

During this manufactured debt crisis, I have been privy to many conversations related to the "working stiffs" by those who are the so called job creators, the chosen ones, the rich and powerful. They usually start with the comment, "they should have made better choices in life," next comes a comment like "they should all stop smoking crack" (with laughter), then comes the usual, "they should have been born to "better" families," and then the rude comment, "it looks like little people are going to take another hit, this just might really bring out the torches and pitch forks this time," again, (with laughter), some laughing so hard, that they tear up.

These particular entitled, actually believe that nothing can or will effect their lives. They joke about having all their wealth, but when the time comes, they're still taking their Social Security if it's there, if it's not there, oh well, then too bad for those who will suffer, they know they won't.

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid mean absolutely nothing to them, but if they can take even more from a system that has already made them rich, and "if" Social Security is still there, then why not take even more? It's not an earned benefit or an entitlement for them and they don't need it, it's just another thing to take (if it's still there), for those who do nothing but take.

I have also heard discussions about, (if and when the market crashes again), of picking up bargains on wall street that will make them even richer when things once again turn around, especially if the Republicans keep the House, or can take the Senate and the Presidency. With laughter, once again, they talk about a Bachmann Presidency and how easy it would be to further manipulate the office of the Presidency and the "religious wackos" in this country to further push religion into politics for the purpose of causing more division in the country. It is truly sickening to hear these things, especially the laughter, since real lives are involved in this game they play.

They also comment about the possibility of future violence from those in the valleys (as they live high in the hills of hollywood) and how some of those beneath them and farther away to the N,S,E and W, "might at some point riot with each other" (with laughter), but "they will only hurt and kill each other and destroy their own neighborhoods, "that's how stupid they are."

Their homes are well protected and so are the homes they overlook, the homes of the rich and powerful in the flatlands of Beverly Hills, and in Bel Air, in and around Sunset Blvd, Santa Monica Blvd Rexford, N Roxbury, Bedford, Camden Rodeo, Beverly and Canon Drives all the way to West Hollywood. These areas would be well protected from any pitch fork or lighted torch moment which they know, will most likely never come.....so there's laughter and more laughter and not one thought of how obnoxious they sound and how pathetic they look.

So, no matter what happens, the wealthy and powerful who I have had the displeasure of hearing speak their views, believe that they will be the spectators in a Roman Arena watching for sport, angry, scared citizens, possibly fighting and killing each other, because the rich and powerful, and their corporations, control the government, the corporate government gives them more and more tax breaks, tax loopholes, tax subsidies,and all of those tax breaks are tacked on to the deficit for the rest of us to pay, while there are more and more cuts to social program for the poor, middle class and already suffering to pay for these tax cuts for the rich, the powerful and their corporations most likely with more cuts to benefits for the majority.

More and more austerity measures for those who can least afford them, and more and more of our tax money, give to those who don't need it in tax breaks......

So these rich, joke and tell stories, and they laugh at the misfortune of others brought on by their greed, their wars, their push to kill needed social programs, their push to further deregulate for more profit on wall street and banks even when they know, that deregulation allows those in power on wall street and in investment banks, to create situations and products that they know are bad products most likely to fail, where they gain further wealth whether or not these products succeed or fail.

Without regulations, the rich and powerful rig the system so they can gain wealth at both ends when things succeed and when things they know are going to fail, do fail, and crash, as the rest of us get to suffer the results of deregulation and the lack of consumer protections, like the results of the 2008 crash that we are still suffering through, that the rich and powerful caused, and that our tax money was used to bail out, and they laugh. They laugh because they have no compassion, they laugh because they are weak, they laugh because they'll most likely never know a moment in their lives of financial struggle, of poverty, of not being able to afford to feed their families. They laugh because they have health care, they have property, they have investments and their futures are protected. They laugh because they don't fear growing older and having nothing. They laugh because they know the rich and powerful control almost everything and they are part of that gang. They laugh with relief, that they are not one of us.

One of the last things I heard in a conversation last week that really stunned me was, one of these multimillionaires said, "I can't tell you how glad I am for us, that none of us are one of "those" regular working stiffs." With other multimillionaires at the Venue replying: "you got that right," "only in a bad nightmare," another replied, "I'd kill myself first," a third chimed in, "We were too smart, we've got brains and talent thank God," and my favorite, from the biggest mouth of all, "you only get what you deserve in this life." More laughter and more commentary continued, as I continued to direct things from my headset to others, directed to me from those poor pieces of shit, rich only in money and power, but without a shred of human decency or compassion in their bones, no real happiness, most of the time out of control and angry, trying each day to micromanage and control everything and everyone around them, talking behind each others backs, barking out orders, screaming at the top of their lungs at times and crying in despair and not coming out of their house in the hills for days, when they don't win another Emmy Award that they thought they deserved.......... and they're laughing at the rest of us.
Lou

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:40 PM
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1. Oh, but it will effect them one way or another
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 03:41 PM by fascisthunter
they are too arrogant and too stupid in the end.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:55 PM
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3. When they have to pay for a private army to protect them from the very angry little people they will
get it.

Poor angry people will fight back.

People today are used to a decent life, and won't sit back and take it.

Rich people are really stupid.













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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:21 PM
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9. They honestly have convinced themselves that you and me won't rise up and we will just keep
complaining and do nothing else. They have very high opinions of themselves and a very low opinion of those who in their opinion, "want what they have, but don't want to work for it." I can't tell you how many times I've heard that one blurted out.
Lou
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:30 PM
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13. Poor angry people will not only rock the boat but will sink it.
I have a family member who thinks he is so above everyone because he as a few million dollars.

I know the type.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:52 PM
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15. It's really obnoxious and sad. I can't think of any reason for someone who has "every thing," to
conclude that, that makes them better than anyone else. You and I know, that poor, angry, and especially hungry and desperate people, do eventually act when there is nothing left to lose. These people however, joke about it, because if in their minds, it ever did happen, it wouldn't touch or get to them. We would just be attacking each other they believe. If that scenario actually played out, (and they don't believe it will), they will be spectators, watching us beat and kill each other on their corporate news channels, (who have been complicit), in helping the masters at the top in dividing and angering this nation. They do not consider anyone "beneath" them, a threat.
Lou
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:55 PM
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16. Might Want to Check the Lifeboats First
Oopsie, only first class passengers get on the lifeboats.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:02 PM
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19. We can swim to the boats and hang off the sides until the boat goes over.
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 05:03 PM by texanwitch
Rich people are so full of themselves they don't think anything can happen to them.

We can grab the oars if they try to hit us.

This isn't 1930 and people won't live in cardboard boxes for long.

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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:00 PM
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38. I want reality to finally slap them in their greedy, smug faces. I want to see them in fear instead
of all of us. I want them to get what's coming to them and what they really deserve. Why does it seem, that those who have so much, keep getting more and more and are never happy? Why does it seem like they dislike everybody else? Why do they want, or think that they need so much? Why don't they feel the need to share with others? How do they sleep at night? Does absolute power, corrupt absolutely? I despise these types of people and I hate what they're doing to our government, and to this country. I don't know what they stand for or what they believe in, other than the their belief in power and money. I can't even imagine living in
their world, where things are of more value and importance, than the wellbeing and needs of people.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:40 PM
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33. lol n/t
Lou
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:55 PM
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17. Deleted/Dupe
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 04:56 PM by louslobbs
Deleted
Lou
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:17 PM
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8. I don't disagree with that assessment, I just wish we didn't have to wait until the end to see them
"get what they deserve."
Lou
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 07:19 AM
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45. Nice wishful thinking but you're wrong. They will never suffer but you will.
The world doesn't work like Hollywood storytelling with the righteous always winning.

Evil often wins and remains triumphant forever in reality.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:02 PM
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46. if the system goes, they go down too
no amount of wealth will help them.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:51 PM
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2. What are you, the pool boy?
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 03:51 PM by supernova
And the poster above me is correct. They only think they are immune. So did the French nobility.
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An_Opened_Hand Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:11 PM
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6. I think this is a person working in the News/Infotainment Biz...
If you read the last few lines you have "headset" and "Emmy Award" mentioned. And that the rich being listen to are on the West Coast. That's who I think he's talking about. In my experience most, not all, of the "Talent" on air are pretty shallow, being that your looks are what will get you ahead in todays media world.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:26 PM
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10. You're correct, been in Entertainment/Television now for 26 years working for the same Director.
I live in California and work from a base in Beverly Hills and then at various venues when staging whatever production I'm working on.
Lou
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An_Opened_Hand Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:03 PM
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20. Yep, I'm on the East Coast in TV, but not in the control room proper.
But through co-workers and friends and the times I'm around the studio floor, I see and hear a lot of what you're describing. What's funny, is that they don't seem to realize that all around them are the very people they're speaking ill of. The people that are making their "Rich" world possible. I would love to see their faces when the great unraveling comes and no one shows up to cut their lawns, deliver their groceries, or clean their pools.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:12 PM
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23. Exactly, they don't realize and even if they did, they wouldn't care. Excellent post.
Lou
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:15 PM
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7. lol, nope, I'm just one of the "rabble" who worked himself up from a production assistant 26 years
ago to a person who has some seniority and longevity in the business, where I am often privy to things I'd rather not hear or see, but I usually just listen and observe, keep most of my opinions to myself, and do my job. That's probably why I've lasted so long in this field and with this pathetic bunch.
Lou
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:29 PM
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12. Congrats on your career
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 04:29 PM by supernova
:D

and I love your sig line. :-)

edit: My hat's off to you on your tact. Given the same circumstances, I don't think I could keep my cool.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:10 PM
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22. I appreciate that my friend, I have a great career that allows me a good life and the ability to
help food banks and animal shelters in my local communities. I keep my cool by telling myself over and over again, "it is what it is, "it is what it is".......then, I don't add anything to what I call, "the story" playing out before me and around me. The minute you start adding your own "story", (your opinion, your past experiences, your anger) or anything else that makes what's already bad worse, then you now have to take ownership (or not) in any consequences that occur from adding your "story" (upsets, feelings) to the ugly mix.

When I stand back, keep my mouth shut and observe, the ugly eventually stops, and the real work of moving the production forward goes on. It's not easy to do, but it is the only thing that has really worked in my world and in my reality. Now, if you want to ask me what I really want to do and say at times, please don't lol.
Lou
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:19 PM
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47. I know what you say is true
I have heard it. Not every rich person is so crass, perhaps, but many of them are.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 03:59 PM
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4. K & R nt
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:05 PM
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5. ...unless desperate and vengeful people start using high power long range rifles on them.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:37 PM
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14. I have never heard them discuss or even consider the things we the average person think are
a possibility. I have however, heard numerous jokes about an armed "bunch of poor old people, with bad eye sight, pulling their IV stands along, while trying to attack." I've also heard, "if they can't afford food, how can they afford guns and ammunitions?" They really don't get it at all. The only upset in their lives, usually comes from when they don't get what they want, when they want it. Other than that, they only joke about the rest of us, our abilities, our usefulness and our continuous "threats." They don't take any of those not like themselves, seriously at all. Others, those who they feel are (beneath them), are just useful idiots, needed only to help make them wealthier.
Lou
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:28 PM
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11. Then they are living in a fool's paradise.
Bad economic times increases crime and most likely they will become victims.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:18 PM
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25. They are, but not in their world. That only occurs to those outside their insulated bubbles. We
are their fools, is how they see it. Most have never been the victims of a crime and almost everyone in their lives, tells them what they want to hear or tells them yes. Very few tell them no, and for the few of us who do, you had better have a good reason and you had better be doing it in private and without any hint of attitude. Yes, they are living in a fools paradise.
Lou
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:55 PM
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18. A default will affect the rich much more than the average person.
A default won't affect the average taxpayer almost at all.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:23 PM
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27. You can't tell anyone, anything they don't believe and don't want to hear. These people always end
up on top, why should they feel threatened by things that usually only touch you and me? They have a different worldview and an inflated sense of self. They are always right and you are always wrong. That's how they view things in their bubble. And I don't disagree with you, only the self righteous do.
Lou
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:24 PM
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28. I was kind of suspicious of that.
When I hear RWingers like Wolf Blitzer say how it will badly this will affect all the people of the world, like they buy bonds, while wringing his hands, I start to say to myself....Really?

Who really are going to be affected that much?
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:41 PM
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34. Exactly. n/t
Lou
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:03 PM
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21. Really? I assume they'll leave the country when the shit flies then.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:31 PM
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29. Who knows what the cowards will do, they're only as powerful as their current wealth allows them to
believe they are, and most think they are quite powerful. They really don't believe bad financial things happen to them, that only happens to others, so in their little pea brains, their wealth gives them this sense of power that they believe will always be there and this wealth and the power that comes with it, will always protect them from harm, (even physical) harm. So my guess would be, "if the shit hit the fan," that they would arrogantly stay where they are and wait for the rest of us to kill each other or calm down.
Lou
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:34 PM
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30. Some folks may be looking for them.
The Czar had an army to protect him....but that didn't work out too well for him.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:39 PM
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32. Like I said, they don't think like that. They live in a bubble where everything happens for them
and not to them. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
Lou
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:43 PM
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35. agreed.
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:53 PM
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37. I have always thought
that if America goes down, she will take the whole world with her...
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:09 PM
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40. I think that's a real possibility. What happens here, does have a global impact depending upon what
it is that's happening here. I think that a Republican, Teabagger, government created terrorist default fits that description. Let's see if the domestic terrorists in Congress, have finally won.......even beating out Bin Laden and his crazies to cause our destruction. US Congress Terrorizes USA and I thought you don't negotiate with terrorists.
Lou
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:14 PM
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24. Only if it drags them down into the nightmare poverty of being
forced to 'work' in the working class! I'm sure some of them would rather die then live like common folk!
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:37 PM
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31. I agree, they would rather die, but they are too cowardly to do anything about that,
it ever came down to that. They would just find a new way to steal from everyone else and re-establish their wealth, but they don't ever think anything like that, because things like that don't happen to people like them.
Lou
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undercutter799 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:21 PM
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26. ridiculous
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:46 PM
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36. Great post, Lou
There is a ton of truth there. Kicked and rec'd.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:10 PM
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41. Thanks hifiguy, a lot of ugly truth unfortunately. Thanks for the k&r
Lou
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:08 PM
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39. They think what happens to the "little people" will never effect them. What happens though
if one day they are driving their fancy car to say LAX and get in an accident in one of the areas they look down on. Mr. "Genuis" rich guy gets taken to the ER at one of the local hospitals. Thanks to the funds being cut and people being not to well educated they could end up dead before they can be transferred over to the Cedars Sinai Hospital. These people need to think of things like, the poor, undeducated, angry people can effect their lives.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:18 PM
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42. What you describe would take some critical thinking skills in order to process. Since they don't
think in our world, but only from the bubble world where they live, this could never be a consideration of theirs. Things like that only happen to you and me, not to them. So there you go, I know the scenario you created above can happen to anybody, but they just think things like that only happen to "those people." They don't get how each of us effects the other in this life, our families, our communities and our nation. Greed has clouded any thought, that would allow us, to burst into their bubble. That's why I always say, I hope they get what they deserve.
Lou
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 07:19 PM
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43. Well-protected homes of the rich and powerful, overlooking Beverly Hills and Bel Air...
There's an address in that area they might want to remember while they're yukking it up about how safe and well protected they are: 10050 Cielo Drive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10050_Cielo_Drive,_Benedict_Canyon,_Los_Angeles
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 08:08 PM
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44. What if non rich people won't haul their trash away
or keep their water & electricity running and sewer, too? Would rich people be able to do their own? They need to think twice.
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