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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 07:55 PM
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We don't have 51 real Democratic Senators and with Obama - bye bye SS and Medicare
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 08:06 PM by SnoopDog
This was Obama's mission. It was 'their' mission.

The oligarchy, Obama, the House and the Senate now will vote to steal OUR SS trust fund and our Medicare.

If Americans don't stop this now, well, you know...
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 07:58 PM
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1. What nonsense. Don't conspiracy theories belong in The Lounge?
:tinfoilhat:
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:00 PM
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3. Been looking for you all day
Would LOVE for you to open a thread and explain to the class why swallowing this all cuts/no revenue with triggers for more cuts/no revenue shit sandwich is a 'win'.

Promise to k&r you. I am genuinely curious. Get your talking points together and do educate us.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:01 PM
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7. What details of the final plan can you point to? I'm not interested in Chicken Little speculation.
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 08:36 PM by ClarkUSA
Here's someone who used to work in Congress whom you will want to email:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=728549&mesg_id=728549

<< Get your talking points together >>

Fuck that. It's the anti-Obama Koch Bros. Chicken Little astroturf that's has been active lately.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:16 PM
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17. You could start with the President's remarks on what has been agreed to
That would be great!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:25 PM
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19. Again, what details of the final Senate and Teabagger House-approved plan can you point to?
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 08:26 PM by ClarkUSA
Nothing is agreed upon until everything is agreed upon.

Oh and email Crawford and be sure to ask about his "talking points" too. :sarcasm:
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:21 PM
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34. Hot off the presses from the White House. Your talking points have arrived!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheet-victory-bipartisan-compromise-economy-american-people
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:32 PM
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21. You get them directly from the Kochs now? More efficient. I though they
Funneled the talking points through the allumn of the DLC they funded and purchased, getting rid of the middle man is much quicker.
THANKS!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:35 PM
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22. That's a false statement. I never said that at all. Why are you trying to mislead people?
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:37 PM
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23. I thought you were bragging about the astroturfing, it is well known that the DLC was Koch funded by
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 08:38 PM by Dragonfli
the way.
I may have read you too quickly, but you have to admit if honest, all you ever post are WH talking points, you are infamous for it.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:39 PM
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24. Bullshit. Quote me. I'm a proud Liberal Democratic Obama supporter at a pro-Democratic forum.
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 08:43 PM by ClarkUSA
Many people don't have a good word to say about the Democratic President and attack him 24/7.

Guess whose sentiments is closer to the Koch Bros.- sponsored divide-and conquer astroturf? Hmm?

(Hint: Not mine.)
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:45 PM
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27. Keep telling yourself that
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:50 PM
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28. Don't have to. It's perfectly clear to me. You should remember "that" though.
:)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 07:59 PM
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2. "This was Obama's mission" that's beyond lame...eom
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:01 PM
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8. Really? Rep Conyers said Obama was the first to offer it up....
What other conclusions can one draw?
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:00 PM
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4. It will only take 51 Seators and an already majority Congress, and Obama...
Bye bye Social Security and Medicare.

Am I missing something?
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:03 PM
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11. Don't think you are missing one damn thing n/t
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:39 PM
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35. What you're missing is a
picture of Him with His shirt off at the beach.

That changes everything.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:00 PM
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5. A Republican president could never come close to getting..
this mission done! Dem's would fight till the death before a Republican president could even come close!!! Them's always been the facts.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:00 PM
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:02 PM
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9. So SS and Medicare have been terminated? Please provide a link for that.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:04 PM
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14. Really?
When the doors are open..... and nobody stopping ya....
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:02 PM
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10. Sky ain't falling. No need to write your SS and Medicare off. I'm not, and I'll need every penny.n/t
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:03 PM
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12. Hopefully your mission is to get counciling for your delustions.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:03 PM
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13. I see the supporters simply putting down the OP, but little in the way of explanation.
Very little. Please, explain and educate us as to why we should be comforted or pleased with this.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:05 PM
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15. Thanks elocs... We really don't have 51 real Dem Senators. They control the House...
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 08:09 PM by SnoopDog
And Obama seems to think that SS and Medicare 'contribute to the debt'.
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Tootz Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:13 PM
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16. Absolutely
false.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:21 PM
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:27 PM
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20. about what...?
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:43 PM
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25. i secretly hope ss cuts and medicare get to obama next year
So he can veto them and let dems destroy the gop in 2012.

Of course the smart conservative will hide these cuts in a dense bill so obama could never make such a clear statement. But in an election year if those get on his desk clean he will veto them and ride that veto into office in 2013
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:44 PM
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26. About the President's "mission" to "steal SS and Medicare"
The President's stated goal is to save both, maintain benefits and guarantee they will be around in the future.

That, is what you lied about. You should apologize, but I'm guessing you won't.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:51 PM
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29. Naivety... If is is on the table, it is on the table....
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 09:09 PM by SnoopDog
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:52 PM
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30. Baby Jesus and all?
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:11 PM
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31. Yes, I am not the best at spelling...
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 09:12 PM by SnoopDog
But I strive to be perfect at English.

I noticed no legitimate debate from you... Shows where you are coming from...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:17 PM
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32. I don't debate with liars.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:19 PM
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33. Who is the liar and what did they lie about?
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