What I heard the President say was much better than I expected.

The part of the deal Obama had to compromise on was the SuperGroup in Congress. He thought this could have been dealt with now by the full Congress. Unfortunately Republicans need an enforcement mechanism to innoculate them from Grover Norquist's revenge.

This certainly isn't the end of Kaynesian economics, as some predicted. $1 trillion spread over 10 years into the future is mild. Apparently there are enough cuts in military spending that the question mark is now on the Republicans in the House. Revenues will be part of the November deal, and the adjustments to Medicare will be modest, probably cuts to hospitals doing too much repeat business with their Medicare patients. Have you noticed all the ads on TV lately from the hospitals about not cutting their Medicare reimbursements? They have known what is on the chopping block - and it is them. Some of these hospitals are running Medicare patients through on a treadmill of spending for every test, every procedure, and then repeating them when the patient is readmitted a month later. My mother was hospitalized following a dizzy spell for observation. They ran every test they could think of in the 24 hours she was there. I finally took her out without doctor authorization because they were going to keep her another night because the doctor hadn't shown up to authorize a dismissal. This was not her regular doctor, and it was in a Bill Frist-owned hospital. Thieves!

There's compromise here. There had to be. Bush caused this debacle in the first place. Obama is helping to clean it up ... and from what I've heard so far he didn't sell out the safety net or education. When I heard about the powerpoint slideshow Boehner is showing his members I was heartened. It was such phoney bravura filled with meaningless rhetoric, that I think he's quite under the gun. It made me take a deep breath and feel okay about this deal. I think Boehner will sweat all night long, and it makes me wonder if he'll be sober enough to attend the next set of votes. I don't think the man is up to this. Nancy Pelosi knows how to run the House. Boehner is just lost in the wilderness with teabaggers.

without hurting Social Security, welfare, Food Stamps, Medicare/Medicaid, or education?

Are we going to sell the national parks to China?

:crazy:

are the job creators. :sarcasm:

*sigh*

All Obama mentioned in the framework is a "modest adjustment" to Medicare spending that will be part of the second part of the deal in November. This should be VERY interesting. I didn't hear anything about domestic spending cuts in the NOW.

And Obama got the long term deal that he demanded.

Yeah, it's not perfect. No compromise ever is. But this is not a disaster for Democrats. It's a disaster for the Baggers.

and auto cuts to Medicare down the road if Catfood II doesn't get a result.

This is a huge win for the Republicans with the promise of more later.

There's a start.

The Right gave ground on nothing at all.

They are getting that ... IF they agree to the deal. I wonder if Boehner can sell it?

Liberals want it one way/rightwingers their way..and what you'll hear/read here and elsewhere...is a radical assessment from both of those groups against the proposal...I do think the repubs have more to cheer about than they realize..but, just the fact that we don't have to revisit this same circus in 4-6 months gives me some hope...I am on social security/have medicare..I'm not really significantly worried...we haven't had a raise in 2 years...that's basically a "cut" anyhow. Yes, he is "under the gun" as was Boehner who still is...Everyone is not going to be pleased by the whole package and we would never get THERE anyhow...Certainly is worth giving it a go.

they got everything they wanted. Once again, they played Obama like a cheap fiddle. The spineless wonder in the oval office does as told.

I don't like it, I'm sure it is going to be bad news for the sick, poor, and needy because that is what the GOP wanted and were willing to destroy us to get.

HOWEVER, something had to be done. I think that we need to look at the immediate, bigger picture, which you outlined above very well.

Let us use this to gather our strength and make SURE that we get the idiots out of office and put in people who will value American lives and who actually care about middle America and jobs. 2012 is going to be here before we know it. If people have no intention of getting involved on a local level and doing what Wisconsin and Buffalo did, then they should not sit and criticize the vote today.

We knew in November 2010 that this is what we were going to get when the teabaggers were voted in. It is time for us to do whatever we can to get a huge number of Democrats in both the house and senate - above and beyond the "super majority" so that we can perhaps start to undo the damage that is being done to our country as we speak.

www.barackobama.com - find your state, find your local groups. We have large gatherings going on across the country on Wednesday - can you lend your talents? We need people to make phone calls, host home gatherings, go to meetings, or just attend the conference calls. We are actually getting very very organized and need all the help we can get.

Sincerely,
Annette

If this passes. There will be nothing to fight for if we accept these limits. It can't be worth campaigning as the party of slightly fewer cuts in programs for the poor.

Austerity is the enemy. Anytime we accept it, we surrender.

If Obama campaigns in 2012, no one will cheer for anything he says...especially since he'll probably also sell out on getting us out of Afghanistan like Hillary wants him to.

John Boehner may need to retire after this.

There is going to be a lot of language to be written in this deal. But Obama did say tonight that cuts would not be made abruptly in this weak economy. If that's the case, it's a win.

These Democrats saying that "it's a night to party for the Republicans are playing the game" ... to make the Baggers feel better about the vote they have to take.

I pay attention pretty much year around, and I do recall that Obama allowed the Bush tax cuts to remain in place until the end of next year because he wanted to preserve the middle class tax cuts and to extend unemployment benefits, and that was the deal. It won't be the deal in December 2012.

I'm not pie in the sky, nor am I henny penny. I'm a realist and I'll happily vote for four more years of intelligence and reason in the White House. I know some people want revolution on both extremes, but evolutionary change in the right direction is welcomed by me.

How about complete surrender. The republicans got everything they wanted, the Dems and the American people got nothing.

Not kill me quickly. If that's worth getting a woody over than the times must be a suckin'

But no matter what, cutting spending in the middle of an economic downturn and high unemployment is guaranteed to cause misery. The economy's going to limp along feebly for the next couple of years. The Republicans are high-fiving each other over that. They want a bad economy because they can turn that into political power.

They are mostly out there in the future. But getting out of Afghanistan sure would be an immediate spending cut I'd champion!