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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:47 PM
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Rollcall reporter: Boehner told GOP conference Obama "caved," Cantor said deal will defeat Obama
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Boehner repeatedly told his conference dems, Obama "caved" on their demands in face of GOP opposition #debt
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In call with GOP, Cantor calls #debt deal a "win for the conservative movement" that will help defeat "this President in 2012"
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Boehner and Cantor both gave each other lots of praise. clear signal to GOP they are on the same page
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:48 PM
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1. They would say this anyway
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:48 PM
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3. +1
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:51 PM
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7. +2 I'm not convinced he's not right, but either way, that's what they'd
be saying.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:52 PM
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11. Yep. They're bullshitting to try and keep their caucus from eating them alive. nt
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:58 PM
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17. it doesn't feel like winning to me
perhaps he won, and what i'm feeling is that *we* didn't win.

but that's wishful thinking on his part i think.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:59 PM
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19. Of course they would
Even if there had been true compromise, they would have framed it as a victory.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:04 PM
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21. Yep.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:48 PM
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2. So, what's the take on this... just fake bravado or some truth?
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 10:49 PM by hlthe2b
i.e., what is it that Cantor suggests will "doom" Obama in 2012? Just BS or something else?
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:51 PM
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9. The jury is out
and will be at least until the 2012 campaigns get going. There are a lot of possibilities. Some Democrats may even be helped by it.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:48 PM
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4. LOL, now Boner is the guy we go to for opinions
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:35 PM
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24. If someone was asking him a question about Bourbon, I might listen to what he has to say.
The man should have an educated and expert opinion on that subject matter.


Sweet, sweet Bourbon.




The rest of what they are spinning is a desperate attempt to build political cover...the shitstorm from the Far Right will rain down on their heads in about, oh six hours or so.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:49 PM
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5. In order to get enough votes, Boehner has to say this
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:51 PM
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6. Yeah, preserving Pell Grants & protecting SS/Medicare benefits will defeat Obama in 2012 for sure!!!
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 10:51 PM by ClarkUSA
:sarcasm:

Read the WH fact sheet and tell me how preserving Pell Grants and protecting SS & Medicare benefits - among other things listed - are not liberal policy victories: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x729115
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:51 PM
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8. No balanced budget amendment, nor cuts to SS or Medicare = Teabagger revolt.
That is not a win for the Rethugs. Boner in their eyes is throwing the under the bus with a deal like this one.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:52 PM
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10. Sounds like GOP PsyOps to me
But if DU was a large enough bloc to swing an election, Cantor would be correct.

Question is, will Dems keep playing into their hands?

If Obama is ousted in 2012, the Right and some of the Far Left will get what they want, but only one of them will be happy with the replacement. I wonder who that will be?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:52 PM
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12. No, Boehner told his caucus that Obama whupped his ass
:rofl:

Is this even a serious post?

:rofl:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:52 PM
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13. Sounds a lot like GD tonight. nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:56 PM
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14. Politicians Politicking
Their voters think they lost.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:57 PM
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15. No surprise. Both sides will try to spin this as a big win.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:57 PM
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16. Duh
Repukes stood tall, stood together, supported their base.

Dems....

:puke::puke:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:02 PM
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20. Their base is pissed..
Even more pissed than you are with the Democrats on any given day.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:59 PM
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18. KR
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 10:59 PM by defendandprotect

Is there anyone here who truly doesn't think this has all been pre-orchestrated?

Come on -- !!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:06 PM
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22. The whole thing has been political theater
and it still is.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:30 PM
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23. I guess if Boehner and Cantor agreed on this ... it must be a damned lie.
I've never known these guys to be honest before. If this were really in their favor they'd wait until the ink was dry to crow about it. Nobody's voted for anything yet, you know.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:43 PM
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25. + a brazillion. n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:43 PM
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26. fuck all those children....repugshits need to grow the fuck up
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