Is the current deal good for Dems - Only for those who have ever negotiated a deal over 1 million

Interested to see an opinion for those who have negotiated a contract over 1 million. Can be a contract for work or a private contract. Did the Dems get a good deal?

..."not completely disastrous" may be the best that can be said for the deal itself, from the perspective of Democrats.

In a wider sense, I don't think being forced or maneuvered into negotiating with hostage-takers can ever be said to be "good" for anyone.

(Except for the hostage-takers, I suppose.)




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I think the republicans got the better end of the deal, certainly from a political perspective. And largely from a policy perspective.

Some of the GOOD things regarding tonight's deal:

No default.

Debt Ceiling lifted till February 2013.

Up front cuts to the Defense Budget.

Did not touch Social Security. Medicare and Medicaid are still intact!

The Bush tax cuts are being left untouched, meaning they WILL expire December 31, 2012!

There is NO Balanced Budget Amendment stipulation in the new agreement.

Regarding the 'trigger':
IF the committee's recommendations are not acted upon, the trigger mechanism's mandatory spending cuts will be cuts will be split 50/50 between domestic and defense spending, and will kick in January 2013.
Social Security and Medicare beneficiaries and "low-income programs" would be exempted from those cuts.
Note: Since the GOP will not want to see defense cuts then they will make sure that there is no chance the trigger will go off!

AND the teabaggers did NOT get all the things they wanted and they are very ticked off tonight :)



AND HERE'S AN IMPORTANT FACT:

Back on April 13th President Obama released a Deficit Reduction Framework.
Here's the April Plan: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/13/fact-sheet-presidents-framework-shared-prosperity-and-shared-fiscal-resp

A lot of the cuts that were in today's deal were in Obama's original Deficit Reduction Framework!
I betcha President Obama is laughing right now at all the TV talking heads that are missing the fact that most of the cuts in the deal are from HIS original plan!

They might think that the contract they ended up with was a good one, when in all reality they got sold their own hat.

If you were a negotiator for the Democrats would you say you won? Not as a matter of spin, would you push away from the table and after the other side left, high five your team members?

Being able to say "Republicans love their taxloopholes" is a far cry from "Republicans worked in a bipartisen manner to close all of these nasty taxloopholes."

There are a few things that look very promising, there are others that I'm not sure where they might fall yet.





I will say this, politically, Boehner got beat stupid by both sides.

I'm not too certain he will survive this.

Not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing, though.

...going on his April 13 suggestions, he got almost everything he wanted, especially if the Gang of 12 can be boxed in.

They started out with nothing but a debt ceiling, which should have been housekeeping. And they parlayed that into spending cuts, which will screw with job creation on top of the harm done to the programs being cut. And they got the default set to more cuts in the next round. We got skunked.

And at the end they won on "tax loopholes" and "prescription drug cost limits." Neither were likely to pass. The latter might pass with a properly formed Commission (use a senator up for reelection who has a lot of seniors as his constituents).

He thought this would shame the Repugs, or make voters think the Repugs are in favor of skipping SS payments for seniors.

Many people, like me, saw Obama's move as a theatrical ploy, devoid of any sincerity at all. There was no reason the SS checks wouldn't go out.

He lost credibility, and the Repugs knew they had him.

:D