Dems should vote this POS down like the previous one, and insist on a clean bill.

Leopolds Ghost

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Mon Aug-01-11 07:51 AM
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Dems should vote this POS down like the previous one, and insist on a clean bill.

"No revenues, no deal."

(to quote DU'er Waiting for Everyman)

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Mon Aug-01-11 07:53 AM
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1. Then the kidnappers would shoot their hostage

they don't give a damn about default.

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Leopolds Ghost

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Mon Aug-01-11 08:01 AM
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2. You've been watching crime shows... Police forces never negotiate with hostage takers.

Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 08:01 AM by Leopolds Ghost

Those guys get a bullet every time, and often bystanders are occasionally put in danger.

Whether or not it's the right thing, it's the nature of the beast.

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ThomWV

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Mon Aug-01-11 08:08 AM
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3. Kick and Recommend - the only right answer is in your post.

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Leopolds Ghost

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Mon Aug-01-11 08:09 AM
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4. It's what Lawrence O'Donnell recommended -- and he was the wise man who everyone labeled cynical

On MSNBC when he suggested it.

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eilen

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Mon Aug-01-11 08:18 AM
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5. But they won't. nt

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WI_DEM

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Mon Aug-01-11 08:22 AM
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6. They should, but they won't. Obama should have demanded a clean bill and said if he

didnt get it he would invoke the 14th Amendment. Obama doesn't have any balls.

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maryellen99

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Mon Aug-01-11 08:25 AM
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7. GOP is threatening to filibuster this one too

How are the dems going to get 60 votes to pass and do they think it's going to pass in the house? If this fails,then what?

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Leopolds Ghost

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Mon Aug-01-11 10:26 AM
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8. Progressives are saying they oppose it... but will they vote for it?

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peace frog

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Mon Aug-01-11 10:28 AM
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9. Should, yes. But they will not.

Leadership FAIL.

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Major Hogwash

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Mon Aug-01-11 10:30 AM
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10. It's our only way out of Barter Town. The pig shit smell is starting to get to me anyway.

Break a deal, face the wheel.

By gawd, that's the only way to deal with the GOP idgits.

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Leopolds Ghost

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Mon Aug-01-11 01:17 PM
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11. Mad Dems -- Beyond Thunderboehner.

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Major Hogwash

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Mon Aug-01-11 03:07 PM
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12. Pelosi is our only hope now.

Reid has lost his mind.
That stroke he had a few years has cost him some brains.
He's not on the ball anymore.

We need a new leader in the Senate, quite frankly.

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Major Hogwash

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Mon Aug-01-11 03:47 PM
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13. Yahoo News: Economists Hail Debt Deal

"Economists hail the agreement as a plus for the economy, but the prediction for jobs is gloomier."

Evidently they don't know who Krugman or Reich are.
You know when Yahoo News likes something, it is bad for Democrats.
They've been leaning more rightwing for the last 5 years all the time.

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Major Hogwash

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Mon Aug-01-11 05:16 PM
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14. Grover Norquist likes this deal, and that should be reason enough to throw it out!!

And if anybody -- any body -- guarantees that the Republicans won't make cuts to the so-called entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid later this year during "phase 2", they are lying!!!

Pure and simple.

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sabrina 1

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Mon Aug-01-11 05:20 PM
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15. Economists say it will be good for the economy with no jobs?

Did I read that correctly? How the @#$% can it be good for the economy if everyone is out of work? Or have they also changed the meaning of the world 'economy' now?

And yes, Norquist likes it, it means his mission is within reach. More than enough reason, warning might be a better word, to not vote for it.

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Major Hogwash

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Mon Aug-01-11 05:31 PM
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19. Well, their jobs are secure, working for rightwing think tanks and lobbyists.

They don't give a rat's patootie for anyone else holding a job. They never did!

I'm very upset, patootie is not in the spell checker, so I'm going to have to wing this one.

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Mon Aug-01-11 05:24 PM
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17. Which economists?

The same ones who missed the housing bubble and financial crisis? The same ones who ignore the ongoing private debt disaster?

I have no idea why anyone would listen to them any more.

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Major Hogwash

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Mon Aug-01-11 05:26 PM
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18. They didn't say, I assume the same dirtbags that worked for Bush.

The ones who created the financial crisis in the first place.

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Mon Aug-01-11 05:22 PM
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16. ms Pelosi just endorsed it on the floor of the house. gave a good speech

she completely understands the opposition....

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Major Hogwash

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Mon Aug-01-11 06:17 PM
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20. They caved. Folded like a chair tonight.

History is replete with examples of people repeating mistakes over and over again from people who fail to remember the lessons of the past.

We are going to stay the minority party in the House after next year's elections.
Boehner will be selected as Time magazine's "Man of the Year".

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Leopolds Ghost

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Mon Aug-01-11 10:31 PM
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21. So what was the vote tally on the Progressive side?

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Telly Savalas

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Mon Aug-01-11 10:34 PM
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22. I agree, but I don't see the Senate or the President killing this

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