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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:23 AM
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Should Elizabeth Warren Run For President?
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/08/should-elizabeth-warren-run-for-president.html

Monday, August 1, 2011
Should Elizabeth Warren Run for President?
by Yves Smith

As the manufactured debt ceiling crisis provides an unflattering window into the reckless incompetence of pretty much all of our elected officials in DC, more and more readers have been calling for Elizabeth Warren to run for President.

The idea of punishing Obama by introducing a wild card into his stacked deck is enormously appealing. The assumption that he can abuse his everyman base as badly as he wants to because they won’t vote for someone further to the right (no matter how little further to the right that really is) after the bait and switch of his campaign is still seen as a viable strategy by most political commentators.

But discomfiting Obama isn’t a very good reason for Warren to consider throwing her hat into the ring. And as we’ve observed in past posts, the Harvard professor attracts a tremendous amount of projection. It would be hard for her, or anyone, to live up to the hopes vested in her.

We’ll take a dispassionate look at the notion of having Warren run for President. The bottom line is there is a sound case to be made for the idea, and it trumps having her run for the Senate. And if she is to go this route, she should primary Obama rather than run as a third party candidate.

What Could Warren Accomplish by Running for President?

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:24 AM
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1. If she wants to (nt)
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:26 AM
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2. She would be of greater value in the Senate
and is said to be considering a run opposite Scott Brown R-MA.
Run Elizabeth Run!
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:57 PM
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15. And is VERY far behind Brown He is probably unbeatable nt
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:14 PM
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19. She isn't a candidate yet, ffs
Should she decide to run, she may blow Teabagger Brown out of the dirty water.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:25 PM
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23. He's popular in Mass.
Besides, it would be a huge waste of her abilities and intelligence.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:28 PM
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26. He's not that popular here
He's quiet as a mouse
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 01:04 AM
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29. Exactly
EW could mow him down if she chose to run, and I hope she does.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 07:53 AM
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32. Everyone here knows he's just sitting under the radar--the last one to make a statement
I've heard from people who know him personally that he is nasty, even to his own dad.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:16 PM
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20. My sentiments exactly....
Run Liz,RUN
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:27 AM
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3. YES YES YES
SHE has more balls
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:31 AM
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4. She's one of Barack Obama's closest friends for 20 years. She's headed for the Senate.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:52 AM
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14. You mean, she's been a freind to Obama. Remember his Consumer Financial Protection Bureau sell-out.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:33 AM
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5. No
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:36 AM
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6. Projection?
Obama is where he is entirely because of projection.

She could follow that playbook. 1) Place the following verbs into a sack; "aspire" "believe" "change" "trust" and "secure". 2) Pull two of the words from the bag at random, and arrange them into a sentence with the noun "you". 3) avoid any specificity about what the sentence means to you... the only thing that matters is what the sentence means to the prospect.

She won't win challenging Obama. TPTB won't let that happen. She COULD win Massachussets however. We need someone more strident and disposable (but still credible) to primary Obama. Say Jim McDermott.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:36 AM
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7. Bernie Sanders has a proven track record, so he's the man!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:40 AM
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8. Please, Ms. Warren, primary the president in an attempt to save this Republic from the economic an.....
social catastrophe our elected pols have just concocted for us. :patriot:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:42 AM
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9. Yes, after Obama completes his second term.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:44 AM
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10. I love her, but no.
She's a terrific advocate for working people, but there is so much more to a president's job than domestic matters, and I'm not sure to what extent she can be effective in those other roles. But I'd vote for her, if she won the primary. Heck, I'd probably vote for her IN the primary.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:46 AM
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11. I'm all for letting you all have whatever hero du jour you want to
run for president.

If it wouldn't be so disastrous, I'd wish you all to get exactly what you want. I think I would enjoy the schadenfreud of watching you all turn on your heroes when you find out that there really is no superman or Wonder Woman.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:23 PM
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22. I've been enjoying that for
a few years now.I saw it coming with the "fill your hope in the space provided "campaign
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:27 PM
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24. We're not waiting for Superman or Wonder Woman.
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 09:28 PM by girl gone mad
A reasonably competent leader would be good enough.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:47 AM
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12. YES! Who do I call? Where do I send money?
Even a sprig of arugala would have let the Bush tax cuts expire.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:51 AM
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13. If the desire in her running against Obama is to "shift the debate" leftward, the question must...
be addressed: just how much will the national media listen to a primary candidate who has no chance of winning?
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:58 PM
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16. yes. nt.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:58 PM
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17. Kick
nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:11 PM
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18. She would get my vote however I doubt she could raise enough money
to compete against our corporate lords. Could you imagine the ads running against her?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:21 PM
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21. OPs like this are amusing.
They never take into account the wishes of the "magic candidate du jour".

It's OK that you like fantasizing, though.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:28 PM
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25. Clearly you didn't read the article.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:08 PM
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28. Clearly I did, and enjoyed the wishful, magical thinking.
Clearly, you're some kind of wizard.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:31 PM
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27. I'd vote for her.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 01:28 AM
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30. at this point i'd vote for a rotten tomato in either primary. it'd do less damage.
i'm registered republican, so i can "vote" in those primaries, but mainly collect insane(ly hilarious) campaign ads. since they have coronations, it's really all show.

sadly, it all being a show seems almost empirically provable for both parties at this point...
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 04:37 AM
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31. few American have ever heard of her and she does not have the public persona to mount a credible
campaign. Unless one has held a major high-profile office they will not be recognized as a credible candidate. As far as being a great progressive possessing a great mind and great communications skills - that is true. But she would not be able to mount a credible campaign. Speculating on her running a credible challenge to the President is unfortunately a flight of fantasy - a nice fantasy mind you - but still a fantasy.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 07:54 AM
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33. Other than the fact that she supports President Obama 100%....
...
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