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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 11:36 AM
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It Is NOT Obama's Fault
:smoke:



" It is not Obama's fault that even though he promised transparency there are still some people who are still unable to see through him.



Obama is not incompetent, nor is he stupid. He has a history of setting very high goals for himself and of achieving the goals he sets out to achieve. He made it to President, after all. Incompetent and/or stupid people do not become President. If he keeps on getting the kinds of results he keeps on getting, it’s because those are the results he was aiming for.



Everything he’s ‘accomplishing’ he’s accomplishing on purpose, because it’s what he sets out to accomplish.



Aside from his now obvious intent to dismantle social safety nets and bankrupt the middle class, another good example is that by the end of 2012 after his Afghanistan “drawdown”, he’ll have twice as many troops in Afghanistan as there were there on the day he was inaugurated (while telling people he’s reducing troop levels).



All of his actions since he was inaugurated suggest that he is doing exactly what he wants and intends to do. Like it or not, that’s the real Obama. He is NOT caving. When someone continually and repeatedly goes along on everything with someone else whom they 'claim' to be opposing, it's not 'caving'. It's the plan. The INTENTIONAL plan. Look carefully at his re-election "strategy"...






On July 07 Doyle McManus published an op-ed in the Los Angeles Times on Team Obama's victory plan, analyzing Senior White House Adviser (the "brains" behind the president's 2008 campaign) David Plouffe's comments at a breakfast Wednesday, July 6, 2011, organized by Bloomberg news.


McManus reported in that article that Team Obama sees four reasons they expect to win the 2012 election, and Plouffe's first reason seems unbelievably disconnected from reality, unless we assume it is Obama's intention to enable republicans policies and turn the country over to the plutocrats:



First, Plouffe suggested, Obama has an opportunity to improve his standing among independent voters -- many of whom deserted the Democrats in the 2010 midterm election -- by working with Republicans toward bipartisan deficit-reduction measures.




And on July 27...


At a press conference held by members of the House Out of Poverty Caucus Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich), the second most senior member of the U.S. House, was pointed in his criticism of the White House regarding jobs and cuts to Social Security the President put on the table last week.


“We’ve got to educate the American people at the same time we educate the President of the United States. The Republicans, Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader Cantor did not call for Social Security cuts in the budget deal. The President of the United States called for that,” Conyers, who has served in the House since 1965, said. “My response to him is to mass thousands of people in front of the White House to protest this,” Conyers said strongly.




http://antemedius.com/content/it-not-obamas-fault



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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 11:37 AM
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1. Truth .nt.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 11:40 AM
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2. amen to that!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 11:52 AM
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3. The Unreccing crew has been out in full force this morning
I expect by the end of the day, several of such threads will be on Greatest Page (or locked)

And thanks for the laughter. I think we are going to need it in bushels.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 11:53 AM
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4. Truth is a hard pill to sallow sometimes.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:08 AM
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36. Hey, they have bills to pay! nt
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 11:58 AM
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5. Bullsquat. You can only do what the historical time allows.
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 11:59 AM by WingDinger
The two santa sabotage has been going on for thirty years. And now, you want to say that if Obama didnt fix all they broke, in his first term, he is a double agent. What horseshit. Dems seem to lack a spine. And I am NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT talking about our elected leaders.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:00 PM
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6. I think your key is stuck
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:04 PM
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8. So is DU's. On apathy, nihilism, backbiting, snark, giving up.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:12 PM
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12. +1
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MrDiaz Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:15 PM
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16. It's is not about
Fixing what everyone broke, it is about what was outlined in the thread above, he is misleading with his words and always caves to the repukes.
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:16 PM
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17. Leaders make history
and Obama has lacked leadership.

And yes, some stand up and have that talent, but few do. Why I expected Obama could is beyond me. I bought into the myth or leadership through good speeches, since two of our best Presidents, Lincoln and Roosevelt, were good speakers too.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:36 PM
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22. Had the plot on FDR succeeded, you would rail against him too.
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:16 PM
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23. Actually, no, you are comparing two different things here
a coup plot and a stubborn Republican group.

If Roosevelt had backed down from his attempts to help the people with his New Deal after hearing about the deal, then yes, I certainly would have.

And, after the initial New Deal stimulus, the Democrats and Roosevelt backed off and there was a period of stagnation. So they put in more stimulus to help the people. Roosevelt admitted more was needed and went back. What we needed was a huge stimulus package from the beginning, as Krugman, Stiglitz, and others called for, when Obama had a Democratic Congress. In 1937, Congress and Roosevelt tightened money, but the banks and industries weren't investing, so they passed more spending programs. One can argue if it really saved capitalism, but it saved a lot of people from suffering hunger and homelessness, and that's what presidents first priority should be, not protecting the wealthy.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:47 PM
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28. I agree totally
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:04 PM
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7. Many white folks automatically think black people are liberal - they aren't!
There are some liberals, of course, but the majority are centrist to conservative as is Obama.

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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:10 PM
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11. Can you show me proof of this
since Clinton and Obama both get nearly 90% of the African American votes, how are they conservative? Perhaps they just aren't nut-jobs like the White conservatives. Or is it that black conservatives don't vote?

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/

I don't believe your statement without proof.

So, show me some verifiable evidence for your statement.

I would add that African Americans are just like any other demographic groups and aren't all monolithic a voting block as the media lets on.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:21 PM
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35. Right. Show us some numbers about how black people wand to cut
--Social Security and Medicare.
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:05 PM
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9. Yes and No
He put himself into a corner with no option and bad planning, and the party that want you to die quickly, or slowly, played on the fears and his unwillingness to take action without Congress.

It was a lose lose for him by the time it came to the last minute.

It suck, but not as bad as I thought i would.

However, the Republicans and the billionaires won again, and the rest of us lost.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:09 PM
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10. His fault or not, his policies and actions are unacceptable
from anyone who deigns to call himself a "Democrat". He needs to go. Or, be honest and just run as a Republican in 2012.
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:13 PM
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14. The buck stops there for me as well and
the fact that so many are letting Obama off the hook is sad. Johnson got hell from his constituents, and while that might have lead to Nixon, he's not the outright corporate own tool his Republican predecessors are. One could argue that a liberal outcry led to a moderate Republican being elected.

Now, our cries are muted, even when we do rally. The MSM doesn't care unless a building blow up or a baby is missing.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:13 PM
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13. This week at the movies: The Big Con
n/t
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:14 PM
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15. Blame the 2010 election, not Obama. No GOP majority, no problems....
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:19 PM
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18. And one could make the case that the 2010 elections
was in part due to Obama failure in leadership and failure to address the structural problems in the economy as Krugman laid out. Instead he hired Wall Street insiders Geithner and Bernanke who fixed the economy for Wall Street and not workers. Besides, I helped put Grijalva back in against a right-wing ignoramus.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:20 PM
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19. +1
:thumbsup:
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:40 PM
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30. If someone willfully forgot/overlooked the disaster of the Bush years to vote GOP, I blame them.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:22 PM
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24. We lost in 2010 in large part because of OBAMA'S FAILURES
What is so hard to understand about that?
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:41 PM
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31. Define failures so you don't have to be so vague.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:21 PM
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20. Wrong.
The GOP oppose everything Obama stands (however shakily) for. The deal is not what Obama wanted; it's some sort of compromise between corporaDems' weak tea and Grover Norquist's most salacious holodeck fantasies.

Whatever it was that Obama really wanted, the presence of the GOP guaranteed a much worse result.
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tweeternik Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:24 PM
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21. K&R n/t
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:42 PM
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25. Reagan, Shrub, Hoover...
just a few stupid, incompetents who preceded Obama.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:44 PM
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26. Paranoia
Is what that reads like.

Surely it's not just Obama?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:44 PM
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:42 PM
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32. your comment is blatantly racist and like all racism, disgusting.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:49 PM
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29. Ahem
"Incompetent and/or stupid people do not become President."

Reagan
Reagan
Bush
Bush W
Bush W

ahem?
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 07:31 PM
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33. recc'd to 40
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:26 PM
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34. "Incompetent and/or stupid people do not become President." AHEM!
The Idiot-in-chief? Hello? The most IGNORANT imbecile to EVER run this country.

As for Obama....a LOT of people fell for the hope and change speeches. He bamboozled them all.
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