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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:00 PM
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Teddy Kennedy would NOT have put up with this Republican bullshit
God I miss that man. Everyday.


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:02 PM
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1. But Massachusetts has a Republican male model now.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:34 PM
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9. and the Info-tainment of America continues . . .
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:04 PM
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2. Sad, but true.
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 02:06 PM by closeupready
:cry: We have no FDR's or JFK's anymore. :( Little more like used car salesmen, IMO, than galvanizing political tigers of yesteryear.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:05 PM
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3. miss him so much, no doubt he would be against this deal
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:06 PM
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4. He would have set Obama straight, thats for sure
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:07 PM
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5. He put up with NCLB
So you don't know what he would put up with.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:34 PM
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10. And NAFTA. The way he refused to work with Clinton on that
should inspire us all, eh? :sarcasm:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:38 PM
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13. And there was the NIMBYism with wind mills.
He wasn't perfect. No one is.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:46 PM
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14. People are perfect only in retrospect. They get better and
more loyal as time passes. FDR, for example never actually interned all of those Americans of Japanese ancestry, either. At least in the memories of some.

Few, if any DUers were alive when that happened. FDR isn't even a memory for DUers, in general. He's only a mythological, ideal character in some people's minds.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:08 PM
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6. I especially liked the way he fought George Bush tooth and nail on No Child Left Behind
nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:32 PM
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7. I miss him, too, but you seem to be remembering a different
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 02:34 PM by MineralMan
person than I remember. Perhaps you've forgotten the many times when he made compromises to get a particular thing done. I don't. I believe one of those compromises is mentioned just below. Then there's NAFTA. Remember that?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:33 PM
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8. Compromise, not capitulation. Kennedy never stood before the nation
to repeat Republican talking points as gospel.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:35 PM
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12. Hmm...
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 02:36 PM by MineralMan
Memories are short, it seems. See you around DU.

Ted Kennedy was also never President. Different jobs. Different responses to individual issues.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:13 PM
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15. My memory is just fine, thanks. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:19 PM
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16. That's good to hear. You hear about so many who have early
onset of memory problems these days. :hug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:25 PM
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17. My memory is still pretty much photographic and I still remember
Kennedy's fist primary debate. John Kennedy's. :)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:33 PM
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21. But, you don't remember FDR's presidency. Neither do I.
Like you, I remember a great deal. I remember Eisenhower's first election, even though I was very young. I do not remember FDR, though. I doubt that many here do.

Memory's a funny thing, too. It tends to be more and more selective as time passes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:38 PM
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22. The topic is about Kennedy, why would I need to remember FDR?
They didn't call Kennedy "The Lion of the Senate" because he caved to bullies, that's for sure.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:45 PM
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23. You're correct, of course. I had brought FDR into the thread
as an example. But Ted Kennedy also did things we rarely mention around here, like NAFTA and NCLB. He was the Lion of the Senate, to be sure, but he was also a Senator who frequently worked on bipartisan issues and made many compromises. We can't forget that in our fond remembrance of him. Lawmaking is nothing if not pragmatic.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:53 PM
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25. There are those whose sole purpose is to distract and dismember threads they disagree with
And compare a dead Senator who did more for America than any 10 Pukes Senators combined.


Yet, we are supposed to believe what is true today isn't what we believed in when he was alive.

Bullshit, they soil his good name.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:29 PM
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19. My thoughts, as well.
I'm actually grateful he never made it to President. We needed him too much in the Senate to castrate him by making him President. I apologize to the Democratic Party for trying.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:34 PM
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11. K-n-fucking-R!!!!!
Boy, are you totally correct! :patriot:
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:26 PM
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18. Always a K&R for Teddy.
I miss him, too.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:32 PM
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20. I'm sure you're right.
I was just thinking about him last week and wondering if he would have kept Obama on a more Democratic trajectory than he seems to be on at present.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:47 PM
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24. Huh? Do you think, e.g., John Kerry is putting up with it?
Teddy was one Senator... he couldn't have done any more than Kerry has done.
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:58 PM
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26. He must surely be doing somersaults in his grave about now...
... Like many of us, Senator Kennedy was seduced by the candidacy of Barrack Obama, and passionately advocated for his candidacy even as his own health was on on its final, downward spiral. I can only imagine what he would think were he here to witness this betrayal.
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