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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:44 PM
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Yo, House Democrats, this is your cue to kill this thing
NEWS! Rep. DeFazio says Biden told House Dems, if all else had failed, Obama was willing to invoke the 14th Amendment.


It follows that if the House kills this poison pill, he will use the 14th Amendment.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:45 PM
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1. AWESOME! Hope that's true. K&R n/t
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:45 PM
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2. Link?
When/where?
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:53 PM
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9. It was just reported by Think Progress
They sent out a tweet. Hopefully they'll have a story on this soon.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:45 PM
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3. Yo... REAL Democrats.... Listen Up... DO YOUR JOB!! Kill The Bill!!! n/t
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:46 PM
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4. Please!
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:46 PM
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5. Kill this pos.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:47 PM
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6. Rosaries if you got 'em..n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:47 PM
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7. wouldn't that be great if Biden miscalculated?
he's talking past tense like the deal is done. Maybe it is, or maybe the dems will call the bluff. A long shot, i know...
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:01 PM
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14. More likely this is a chink in the administration's united front.
Obama didn't want to be seen willing to do this because he's not really negotiating with Republicans, he's negotiating with Democrats.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:07 PM
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16. The president would probably tell him
that this slip is a BIG FUCKING DEAL!
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:50 PM
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8. But that would be dumb...
Considering that Obama's already said that his legal team had advised him against using it. I have no doubt that the Rethugs would try to impeach him over it.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:54 PM
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10. It's time to quit worrying about what the Republicans will do.
The rest of the country is with us on most progressive things. This compromising BS is getting us no where.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:57 PM
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13. I'm sure Bush II sat around worrying that the Dems might impeach him
Bring it on. They'll just be shooting themselves in the foot.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:56 PM
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12. They will try regardless
He is a democratic president... that is the truth... and a black one to top it off.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:04 PM
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15. They didn't impeach him for starting a war in Libya.
They didn't impeach him for torturing Bradley Manning.
They didn't impeach him for defending their "right" to wiretap without warrant.

I don't care. I prefer President Biden anyway.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:11 PM
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19. Let's really look at this impeachment thing.
The only reason they got Clinton was because he lied about Monica, something Ken Starr dug up, when he couldn't find any wrongdoing on the stuff he had started to investigate Clinton on. If there had been no Monica, and therefore the lie under oath, there would have not been an impeachable offense. So if they go after Obama to impeach him, they have to investigate if he really is wrong in this. My bet is, they can't. Even with the lying Clinton beat the rap. I don't really think President Obama has anything scandalous or criminal to hide in his past that could come up.

I'd say go for it.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:55 PM
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11. So we are finally about to give the green light to the tactical team?
'bout bloody time.

Other translation... shit sandwich is not getting the votes.
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maryellen99 Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:08 PM
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17. Do you think O will go on Tv at 12:01 or wait until tomorrow?
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:09 PM
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18. Looks like there is the votes to pass the bill. No need to invoke the 14th.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:13 PM
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20. IT AIN'T GONNA FAIL! n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:19 PM
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21. Kick for a clean bill or for the 14th. n/t
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:02 PM
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22. Current roll call for Dems is 13 YES 16 NO
67-32 overall.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:25 PM
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23. We don't have that kind of courage.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:30 PM
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24. Sadly, no. nt
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Drahthaardogs Donating Member (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:41 PM
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25. This does not makes sense.
If Obama was willing to invoke the 14th, then we should have gotten much, much, more. The Republicans would have very little leverage.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:45 PM
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26. Yes, we should have
But we didn't because he kept saying he wouldn't use it.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:47 PM
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27. this will pass.. they would not have brought it to the floor if they didnt have the votes.
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 05:47 PM by DCBob
imo.
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:04 PM
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28. Bill's got problems, but I'd vote for it considering alternatives.
Default is a disaster. 14th amendment goes before Clarence Thomas Supreme Court. Less worser of bad alternatives.

On the other hand, I can respect those who want to stop it.
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