there is no way to sugarcoat it and it is not overly dramatic to say that this "deal" is a disaster

for the country as a whole and for the vast majority of the people. And if you can't see that now, you will surely see it after Thanksgiving.

I wish I saw something about this deal that I could support, but there's nothing there.

So I guess it can't be *all* bad.

until all us peons are bowing to her and her corporate overlords, so hard to measure on that standard.

she's upset that repukes only got 90% of what they wanted and not 150%

is misogynistic and unacceptable, in my book. Even when we disagree with them.

it's not necessarily SEXUAL - and I have called PLENTY of male politicians WHORES

The connotation is generally nonsexual when used with regard to a male; but when used to describe a woman, it is a foul insult, like the "c" word. It implies sexual promiscuity, and is an ad hominem attack that has no place in civil discussion. I find it unacceptable. There is no reason to bring a woman's sexuality into the discussion at all. It can be interpreted as a way of slut-shaming women in an attempt to keep them out of politics, a domain that has traditionally been dominated by men.

Why not just say you disagree with her policy positions? Is it really necessary to call her a whore?

get over it

misogyny is as prevalent among men on the left of the political spectrum as it is among men on the right. I try to call people out on it when I see it.

just because she claims to not like it doesn't mean that it's alright, that's really foolish to *think* like that.

He's throwing a party tonight to celebrate the BIG Victory.
:party:



Cherish your memories, SUCKERS!
because we're TAKING everything else!
Hahahahahahaha!

After Thanksgiving we will see how the Joint Committee and triggering mechanisms were designed as a back-door revenue increase, and the GOP will be forced to vote for it.

We will surely regroup by December 23 to see who was correct.

:hi:

With the exception of Robert Reich, whom I admire, I have yet to see any real expert say that this was a "horrible" deal or whatever. It doesn't freeze spending for 400 years like DU dramatists are claiming, and it also doesn't prevent action on jobs.

And there aren't two people I trust more for their takes on the economy in the context of government machinations.

But Krugman is well-known for his hyperbole, so I don't trust ANY disaster scenario he writes about.

So even if he's being hyperbolic by twice as bad as this is, then it still sucks.

He begrudgingly supported healthcare reform as being as much good as it was bad. So it's not like he reflexively can't find the good in some things even when it's not ideal. It sounds like he sees nothing good in this deal.

I dearly pray that you are right. But past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.

So my gut and my head tell me the next round will look a lot like this one.

But time will tell!

.... that we don't get a 50% revenue increase, i.e. matching dollar for dollar with cuts.

That would be "fair", more than that a "victory" but neither will happen. Obama gets PUNKED EVERY FUCKING TIME and for the life of me I cannot figure out why you people cannot see it.

Bookmark this thread, I am. I'm sick of the "we will win soon" nonsense, we are not going to win with a CHUMP like Obama at the wheel.

I fear this is only the beginning of a long dark period in our nation's narrative.

:-(

So Bachmann wanted the last 2%. Big whoop.

Because we hate the Repubs. Are you following the logic? Don't bother there isn't any.

took the wind out of my sails and I'm sure many others, as of July 2012. Med students, law students, etc. I don't know where I'm supposed to get an extra $207 dollars a month!:thumbsdown:

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/college-students-using-sugar-daddies-to-pay-off-debt/

Our new Republican future!

plus hubby wouldn't like it. LOL!! I can just see med students trying to work a part-time or full time job and trying to finish a residency or internship. This, from the education president. I'm a little disappointed, I must say.

Besides, I flat out wouldn't find that program working for me.... ;)

"The Handmaid's Tale is set in the near future in the Republic of Gilead, a country formed within the borders of what was formerly the United States of America. It was founded by a racist, male chauvinist, nativist, theocratic-organized military coup as an ideologically driven response to the pervasive ecological, physical and social degradation of the country.

Beginning with a staged terrorist attack (blamed on Islamic extremist terrorists) that kills the President, a movement calling itself the "Sons of Jacob" launched a revolution, ousted Congress, and suspended the United States Constitution under the pretext of restoring order.

Taking advantage of electronic banking, they were quickly able to freeze the assets of all women and other "undesirables" in the country, stripping them of their rights. The new theocratic military dictatorship, styled "The Republic of Gilead", moved quickly to consolidate its power and reorganize society along a new militarized, hierarchical, compulsorily Christian regime of Old Testament-inspired social and religious orthodoxy among its newly created social classes."

Any one read that book?
The similarities are down right spooky.

It is eventually revealed that the TPTB keep a harem of purty young things
in a secret "Sin City" for their personal pleasure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale
BHN

"Look, up in the sky-it's a plane-it's a bird-NO, it's SUPER CONGRESS." Don't worry, wait until they set up the so-called super congress-to pass all of those unpopular, people be damned bills (if they aren't shot down for being unconstitutional). Oh wait, we don't need no stickin supremes (actually, we don't have that many for the people anyway).

Well, let's see what happens-I can see it now-the super congress will take all of the heat, leaving all of those blameless congresscritters and the administration to slide. "It wasn't us, it was super congress who cut those benefits, cut those regulations, cut those jobs." Totally priceless, if it wasn't so damn sick.

& I look at the UK, they're about 1 year ahead of us on slashing & wrecking their public sector, & guess what? They just fell back into "recession", & I believe that it will turn into a Depression. I just posted a link from late July 2011, where UK gdp is DOWN MUCH FURTHER than the Hooverites claimed it'd be when they embarked on their obsession with deficits while ignoring jobs.

We've been through this before, with the Patriot Act, the "No Child Left Behind" bill, the Bush Tax Cuts, and nearly everything else that the Democrats have compromised on, and soon as they see that the Democrats are willing to compromise, they take more or warp what the Democrats have said they are willing to do in order to change it into something entirely different.

Republicans lie.
And when the Democrats stop believing the Republicans, that will be the day they start to make progress in this country.
Until then, it's the Faux News Congress, the Republicans control Congress through intimidation and filibustering until they run out the clock to the next election.

In the meantime, ordinary Americans suffer and their wages amount to less and less at the store every month.