Thank God it passed...

:shrug:

i thought of doing so but decided not to. Ah well

But evidently, not the Democrats we have in Washington now.
They'll swallow anything!

apparently. :eyes:

in this bill. That was the bill that was defeated in the Senate on friday.

The bill that was defeated on Friday in the House was very similar to Reid's plan.

that there will be ongoing talk about the possibility of a balanced budget amendment in the future, but it is not part of this bill. If it was, a 2/3 vote would be required in tomorrow's Senate vote, and NOBODY is saying that. I have not heard a single word that the amendment is in this bill.

And they included the requirement that the House and the Senate will work on passing a balanced budget amendment.

And that's how Boehnor got so many Tea Party onboard to vote for the damned bill.

That will be decided upon by the star chamber they are going to form.

The only hope is that they do still need 2/3 of the House and Senate though to pass an ammendment to the Constitution plus it would have to be ratified by 38 states and I just don't see that happening. JMHO.

I saw on the graphic all the Dem & R votes, but the Independent was blank. Didn't bother to vote?

Bernie and LIEberman are in the Senate.

:blush:

Hmm... I would have thought that there were a couple of I folks in the House too.

I'm sure we'll see it's genuine equivalent stated in all seriousness shortly.

It's not like our future got better. We paid the ransom. That is all.

humans very much.

:cry:

:cry:

where ya gonna go beyatch?

:)

:evilfrown:

:rofl: That's even more hilarious than thanking gawd it passed.

And that song is not going to be nearly as famous in about 6 months.

Phase 2 of the "great cuts scheme" has to be passed by Thanksgiving.
I doubt there will be any real Democrats posting here by then, but there will be plenty of turkeys hanging around.

Had to be said.

Thanks for the laugh on an otherwise sucky day.:rofl:

I remember that thread and this will probably turn out about as well. :hi:

yet.

Is it up yet?

:shrug::shrug:

just saying........

Who was that, anyway? I forget.

lol... I remember that thread too

OMC. How could I forget? How bizarre...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAxFc1k-2wA

Here's the quick and dirty (The White House has a summary here and more details here):


http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/07/31/president-obama-speaks-support-bipartisan-deal-reduce-deficit-and-raise-debt-limit

•$900 billion in initial cuts (below CBO's baseline) through capping discretionary spending (meaning that nothing is being cut right now). Both parties had largely agreed to these cuts during the debt talks. This is really only about $750 billion of actual cuts; the other $150 billion comes from saving on interest payments on the national debt. This also raises the debt ceiling by $900 billion.
•Initial cuts do not include Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, or programs for the poor. It actually increases Pell grants - even in Boehner's bill.
•$350 billion (almost half of these cuts) in cuts in the base defense budget - these are not simply the savings coming from winding down the wars. This actually cuts the base defense budget.
•Specifically protects the President's historic investment in Pell Grants.
•Sets up a bipartisan "supercommittee" of Congress (half and half Democrats and Republicans) to achieve $1.5 trillion in additional deficit reductions with both tax reform and entitlement reform on the table.
•They must achieve at least $1.2 trillion in reduction or automatic cuts set in of that amount, spread equally between security (Defense and Homeland Security, mainly) and domestic spending set in. Social Security, Medicaid, low-income assistance programs and Medicare benefits are exempt (yes, I know you can swear you read or heard on the ether that it is not so, but it is. Follow along below). These are the so-called "triggers."
•Either way, the debt limit goes increases additionally by a commensurate amount to the cuts (at least $1.2 trillion, at most $1.5 trillion).
•A balanced budget amendment is guaranteed a vote, but not passage. But Congress can avoid both the supercommittee requirement and the alternate automatic cuts if it sends a balanced budget amendment to the states (which. will. never. happen. - because Republicans won't agree to anything balanced in terms of the balanced budget amendment.).
Remember that the President can still veto anything coming out of this committee and Congress (in which case the triggers go into effect).


The President agreed to no Medicare benefit cuts in the "trigger."

so-called "triggers" do not go into effect in 2012. They go into effect in... drumrolls... 2013

(Get Out and Vote in 2012)

being the "evil one" tonight.... :D

:D :)

Have to hope Kentuck has a "robust" sense of humor.

:-)

I wish I could recall more of it so I could find it. Anyway, the poem was about people who were worried about a calamity (in this case, nuclear holocaust) and they were continually reassuring themselves that it wouldn't happen, i.e.,

"Tomorrow, perhaps, but not today"

and the poem runs along in that vein until things do go kablooey. The closing line is,

"One minute past midnight.
It wasn't today."



So, we've missed the disaster this time. Perhaps. But midnight is growing closer.