Third Way "Democrats" already saying Super Congress must cut Social Security and Medicare.

Third Way "Democrats" first out of the gate to weigh in on what the Super Congress should cut. These will be the six on OUR side of the table, folks. Welcome to the new Democratic Party.


http://www.thirdway.org/press_releases/166

Third Way Supports Debt Deal: "Compromise a Necessary First Step"

August 01, 2011
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Washington: Third Way President Jonathan Cowan issued the following statement relating to the debt deal worked out between party leaders last night:

“The deal announced last night by President Obama and leaders in Congress will avert a short-term economic calamity, and it will serve as a necessary step toward grappling with our budget deficit. We urge Congress to pass it.

“But this deal is just a first step, and no one should declare ‘mission accomplished.’ As Third Way has said from the beginning of this debate, the only way to avert a long-term fiscal crisis is a grand bargain. The deal pending before Congress gets us part of the way there by making real spending reforms on both the defense and domestic sides of the ledger.

“But to finish the job, the next steps toward such a bargain must involve tough choices on both sides – Republicans must be willing to throw out their pledges and support an increase in revenues; Democrats must tell their core supporters that the only way to save entitlements like Medicare and Social Security is to reform them. Both options must be on the table immediately, and neither side should view their absence in the current deal as an opportunity to declare them off-limits. A grand bargain is the only way for the United States to avoid a downgrade, get our fiscal house in order and protect crucial investments so that we can secure long-term growth. It will be difficult. But in the coming months, Congress must decide if we are to be a AAA or a AA nation.

“The most heartening thing about this deal is that after months of bitterness and rigidity, it reflects genuine compromise. In an era of divided government, principled compromise cannot be a dirty word. No one thinks this deal is perfect, meaning that, for now at least, negotiators have arrived at an agreement worth building on.”

All third way dems want to destroy the working class.

and they DON'T speak for me.

as the tea party crazies. The pretense is over

:crazy:

Same group, different name.

They are also called the New Democrat Coalition.

I mean, really!!!!

:eyes:

Turd Way they most certainly are.

Did anyone here think that the only places the republicans would infiltrate would be school boards, local/state politics, leftist organizations and the judicial arena?

Really?

This should be appealed...Surely someone from the Progressive Caucus

can intervene here....Someone has to guard Democratic principles.

Much like that POS Norquist makes repukes "sign" a statement that

they will not raise taxes, WE should have someone who insists

that Democrats, at least new ones, sign pledges that they will

NOT cut Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid.

Why should SS be any different?

:eyes:

They're winning no matter what they're called. Corporate dems is really what they are.

I wouldn't even mind if they could deliver JOBS for those who need them. But they deliver NOTHING!

and no good recommendations/decisions will emerge.

This legislation is bullshit.

"Third Way" originally was used to describe fascism, as an alternative to both capitalism and Marxism:

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Italian_fascism#Syndicalism_and_the_.27Third_Way.27

Seeing as how the current political environment supports both militarism and "survival of the fittest", this still seems pretty accurate.

I thought it sounded like some new age cult.

the idiotic Tea Party equates Fascism with Marxism because they believe Fascism was (is) a form of socialism, therefore it must be related to communism. This is 100% not true. Fascists have always been, and always will be, diametrically opposed to Communism or any non-brutal form of socialism. Think of it in terms of Ayn Rand. Fascism was designed to allow the Powers That Be, those who have the power to control industry and wealth, to maintain and increase their ultimate power over everyone else. Ultimately it is anti-democratic (small d).

:sarcasm:

The only reason I'm still in was to try and make a difference and I have a history of active support within the party.

extremism on social policy.

Thanks to Bush, and disagree with progressives and liberals on everything else.

They are the "voters of the future" you might say. The ones you see twittering
on their blackberries that they are so tired of politics and are more interested
in Glee.

In their view, if Obama did it, it must be good for the country because those
awful rednecks hate Obama. Yeah they aren't really into debate class.

Nice company for the DLC to keep.

nt

The Super Congress WILL have a even balance of Right Wing Conservative Republicans,
and Right Wing Conservative "Democrats".

BOHICA



Cherish your memories, SUCKERS!
because we're TAKING everything else!
Hahahahahahaha!

n/t

Obama is, himself, one of these Third Way or New Dems, he even said so.

They succeed because they have tons of corporate money behind them, and the whole corporate infrastructure supports their policies, so they get favorable play in the media, basically the tracks are greased to make it easy for these type of Dems to win.

Their policies and funding sources need to be brought into the light of day and discredited.

Let them touch SS and see what happens. That just might be the catalyst needed to reach the point of critical mass needed to end this takeover of the party and the country.

What a complete cluster f**k for the American people.

K&R

No one could have anticipated that the people who have been trying to kill Social Security for nearly eighty years would use this crisis to try to kill Social Security!

From the Third Way website -
"It’s a savings-led reform plan, relying on $2 in benefits cuts for every $1 in tax increases..."

How bout we just increase taxes on people like, say, Peterson, who made last year $2.5 million from the misery of other people, what it would take someone working 47 years at $50,000 a year to accumulate.

And he pays a lower percentage of tax than you do.

Add in payroll taxes for people who make more money - they can help. Or create jobs. Didn't have this discussion when we had enough jobs, and the mission of this organization will fall away, like an unwanted mole after a laser treatment, if we can put people back to work

"This plan is likely to generate opposition from the left,"

Um, yeah. My promise is that I will work against anyone who supports this.

I can't hardly think of the words to describe how dirty I feel just reading the website. How many old people do they want to throw into the street? They want to increase the retirement age, yet a full third of retirees never get paid enough to have ANYTHING between them and poverty except SS. They talk about a hardship exemption - what an arrogant and disrespectful approach. A couple million people over 55 are living hand-to-mouth, no jobs available, and this will be the first and only support they will get.

Apparently these folks are willing to kill some off to achieve their goal - which is exactly what lowering benefits and increasing the age will do. Like the Republican Health Care Plan: Die Early. It's your only hope.

Policies such as these take the talk away from innovation, from jobs, from the things that will make this country stronger. They are traitors, Teabaggers with a different phone number.

If that's a Democrat, you can have it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1640640 Concord Project details, importance of precinct committee members VERY IMPORTANT READ

and get people mobilized