This country makes me sick.

This title of this thread might anger the "USA USA!" crowd, but it's the truth. This country really does make me sicks. We have thousands of people dying every years because they can't get healthcare. We have at least 15% unemployment, thousands of people living in poverty or on the streets, we are cutting social-services, meanwhile we won't even ask the rich to pay their fair share of taxes. (By we I mean our politicians.)

We give billions of dollars to Wall Street in bailouts, but who is going to bailout the people who have to work for a living? It sure as hell isn't the top 1% who control 42% of the wealth in this country, I'm not sure how much the top 2% controls. T

his country does have a cash deficit problem,but more importantly it has a deficit of moral character. This country really does make me sick.

You nailed it there. I love the people that make up the USA, but I think we got we got a sickness, I think we've lost track of the bigger moral picture. I would call it a spiritual deficiency, you might pick a different word than spiritual but the idea is the same: We've lost track of that sense of what's real, what really matters in the big picture of how we fit in to the world beyond our little lives.

But why be angry at the whole country for the actions (or lack thereof) of the politicians? There are still millions of good people here trying. I understand the frustration though, trust me.

Love it or leave it... :sarcasm:

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Right now people are shell shocked... they will react sooner or later, and it will not be nice.

Our system needs massive reforms at the least.

is that things happen in their good ol' time. They always surprise the people who's actions lead to that explosion... but they happen.

It does not matter if this is the Jackerie, revolts in ancient Egypt... or 1917... or the French Revolution, or the American Revolution... it will come.

I know in the middle of it. it could not come soon enough... but it will come. IN fact, it is already happening. What is happening in WI is the early stage of that. So keep the faith, as it were. Those of us who are agnostic at best.

Oh and the hour is indeed growing late, and the wood is tinder dry.

"Reform if you would preserve." To be honest though, I don't think I want them to be preserved. We gave them a last chance with the New Deal and look what they did.

people forget... so a new lesson needs to be taught... and how the wheel turns none of us can tell. I can make predictions. I have the feeling this is a time similar not to the New deal but the civil war... or the non completed revolution. It is a time that I wish none of us had to live through. The only bright side, is that I will not live long enough to see it again. I was talking to a depression era kid the other day... she remembers little of that, except that now she understands the fear from her parents. That is one of the reasons this happens... over and over again. I wonder if we humans are truly capable of learning from history? I mean it is damn cyclical.

in the sixties.

Like forkboy said, though, it's not the people as a whole, it's politicians and corporatists..The

latter have become powerful beyond my wildest imaginings.

He said "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country" We didn't heed is warning and look where we are at.

and even Republican President Dwight Eisenhower told us,

in his farewell address, to "beware the military industrial complex".

BTW Top 2% = ~80% of wealth last I saw.

I swear that borders on Tsarist Russia numbers. Okay, not that quite that bad, but still it's utterly immoral.

They are holding us all back by voting for these monsters.

Seriously these monsters won't be happy till we are leaving in the early 18th century.

they only account for about 10 to 15 percent of the eligible voting population, around 20 to 30 million repukes. Tea baggers are much, much smaller than that. But Tea baggers frighten repukes because in primary season, even a small but committed minority can upset an election. That's what the tea baggers (bank rolled by far right fascists) have accomplished.

to live. Many of the legal ones become citizens.

Most of Europe is much better than us.

I don't know about that, I saw a documentary about living conditions in England and they make their poor people in cities live in these big highrises built way back when, lots of them don't have working elevators, all cooped up like animals. Then some of the people who live there trash the place because some of them ARE animals and have never worked a day in their life. I don't really think that is what we can call "better" than us.

immigrants who can't make in their own countries come here and that is supposed make us feel better about our country. You are deluded, seriously. That or well off with no skin in the game.

To a homeless person in america... "At least you are homeless in America! Ya know how much better you have it here then in the Sudan... suck it up, and oh, vote for Obama!!!!"

that I rode the motorcycle to my favorite convenience store for morning coffee.

Yesterday I mowed the yard at the other house. That one only has two acres, so it didn't take but a little over two hours. Then, after a shower, I went to the gym.

Life is good!

you got yours.. goody for you as if I'm supposed to be jealous. It just tells me and others here you really don't know what you are talking about nor do you give a shit about those who are going to have a worse life style.

go get, take the bicycle, motorcycle, or jeep. After coffee, work in the yard, go to the gym, or don't do diddley.

Life is good. And the bait is in the water again.

But honestly, this isn't a joking matter to some folks.

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It's like that poster just graduated from writing "Piss Off a Liberal: Work Hard and Be Happy!" bumper stickers. Uggggghhhhh. :puke:

My car died. Now I take the bus. I have one part time job and I make less than 20,000 a year. I don't have a yard. I can't afford breakfast. I can't afford going to the gym. There are no jobs.

Life is good...for people like you. The rest of us can...what? Just go die? Forget about social mobility? Starve to death? Is that the official Democratic position on poverty now?

criminals criminals also. What's your point? It's good for me also, but I know it's not good for millions of other Americans. Sorry I can't join you in celebrating 'I've got mine so there is no problem'. I'm a Democrat so that doesn't work for me.

I certainly hope so...

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It's the Ayn Rand inspired "I've got mine fuck everyone else" mentality.

people are crossing the border to the US.

U-S-A!
U-S-A!

Guess liberals really don't know what makes America great.

and stoning of those that violate the "moral code".

That'll show em. What do you think?

it has everything to do with doing what's right in a civilized society.

Who pissed in your Wheaties?

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I think you're odd to assume morals are dependent upon religion.

It's like a vicious circle,as the economy gets worse,people slide rightwards.

You'd think that when people need more help they would look to the people who want to help them, not the right wingers. The right wing pretty much are only interested in making people tackle their own problems and don't want to help people get out of a mess. What kind of government are they expecting to get if they're not even asking for one that will help fix all their problems? People are mad.

The difference between what this country can and should be and what it has become sickens me to my core. I feel that more strongly every day.

on which it was founded--individual freedom and responsibility.

The US is a Republic; however, we hear our Representatives refer to her as a "Democracy." But what is Democracy? Simply put, it is mob-rule dressed in a coat and tie. Our "Democracy" represents a manifestation of corruption--morally corrupt Representatives representing a morally corrupt electorate.

This country might make you sick, but it is Democracy, that has made the country sick.

We are a Republic in name only. In truth we are a Plutocracy.

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