If You Need to Actually Say You Didn뭪 Cave, You Caved

Donnachaidh

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Thu Aug-04-11 02:17 PM
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If You Need to Actually Say You Didn뭪 Cave, You Caved

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/08/04/if-you-need-to-actually-say-you-didnt-cave-you-caved/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CampaignSilo+%28Jane+Hamsher+Campaign+Silo%29

If so many people are saying you got beaten that you actually feel the need to start publicly declaring you didn뭪 cave, that means you caved.

From the White House뭩 absurd attempt to defend the debt ceiling deal with lies:

Myth: President Obama caved.

:snip:

At no point in the debt ceiling fight did President Obama say the initial deficit reduction 밺own payment� shouldn뭪 cut Medicare and Social Security. In fact, it was President Obama who wanted a single payment in the form of a $4 trillion grand bargain. It was also Obama who put Medicare and Social Security benefits cuts on the table as part of the grand bargain package.

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TheWraith

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Thu Aug-04-11 02:19 PM
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1. Jane Hamsher's newest spin for her buddy Grover Norquist. nt

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sasha031

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Thu Aug-04-11 02:23 PM
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2. yes I remember well, when he said he had put SS and medicare on the table

at a press conference and was willing to take a hit from his own party in order to get the grand deal done.

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dtexdem

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Thu Aug-04-11 02:38 PM
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3. Time to join Spelunkers Anonymous.

;-)

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BNJMN

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Thu Aug-04-11 02:39 PM
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4. Logic fail.

In logic, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it; it alleges: "If many believe so, it is so."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

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Sheepshank

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Thu Aug-04-11 02:51 PM
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5. And if you have to claim that you're black, when everyone else is insisting your are 1/2 white...

then you're not really black or are you?

How is the mere act of protesting or agruing a point against anyone, proves the other persons point?

The most assinine argument of the day. Not suprised it's coming from FDL

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