Thanks you Tweety, let's see if people listen

LESSER EVILISM will not ATRACT the voters.

Digest that please, and what it means.

and they are sure as hell not liberals or un-evil.

LESSER EVILISM indeed.

That's pretty much running a campaign on You think I'M Crazy, look at the fucktard I'm running against...

Do you want to get out the vote, phone bank and raise money for "I'm crazy, but look at that whackjob"?

I swear to God most of the Democratic party leadership in charge of campaigning is advocating lobotomies, and the people we have on the ballots have already gotten them.

But what I think they missing the boat.

It is the relentless negativity that drives people away from politics and the more negativity that is out there, the less likely people are too vote. The thing about all of this is that low turnouts always tend to trend toward the GOP...

That's what it looks like to me, and wouldn't surprise me a bit. If you can't get shit passed with a super-majority, you don't want to get shit passed.

My God. The current crop of shills has to be dumber than a box of rocks. Lesser of two evil politics just ends up with fewer people at the polls and more people not giving a damn.

No amount of spin changes that fact. Destroying the party from within is what I call it.

will no longer be an option for me. We should never have allowed them to get away with it. We all need to get involved at the local level so we can choose our liberal/progressive candidates. Blue Dogs are too conservative to put good policy in action for everyones benefit. JMO

I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter if the bus goes over the cliff at 60mph or 5mph, it's still going over the cliff.

I will vote my conscience from now on.

He needs a program to create jobs."

But Obama can because he's the most powerful man in America. It's disingenuous to argue otherwise.

certainly not from the President, who could at the very least spur SOMETHING for heaven's sake - not a politician that bores the shit out of everyone.

Edit: And I didn't mean to direct that at you or anyone personally. You are right in some ways, but failures of the other side at this point don't make massive failures on our side look any better.

my lordly... will Tweety join Mrs Maddow and Mr. Krugman under the buss with the rest of us?

People complaining this way are negative to start with. That's the only way TO appeal to people who don't want to find good in anything.

for office and we both know how successful that second term was.

You should heed the lesson... and not you specifically, the WH should.

for about as long as I am going to listen to it. I'm gay. I feel, and HAVE felt disenfranchised since this administration. Before, I could be reliably counted on as a donor, volunteer and solid vote. Do you HONESTLY think "It will be worse under a Republican" hand waving is going to motivate me after I have watched the push for DOMA, "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman" and DADT ultimately got repealed by actions from the Log Cabin Republicans?

Meanwhile, the OTHER ideals have been sliced away, one at a time. Explain to me - concisely - what could be done that is worse. Do you think in New York, after Republicans voted for gay marriage, that they are suddenly going to repeal it? Do you think after the courts have struck DADT down, anyone can repeal it? But this administration hasn't done shit. Don't even drag out the list, because it isn't so.

I want to know how our party is LESS worse. I mean, my God, even Republicans don't throw their own party members under the bus without reason. Obama has tossed a huge chunk of the base under the bus out of convenience. Don't tell me it's for any other reason.

Of course it would be worse under republicans.

And you are going out of your way not to credit Obama for repeal of DADT. He SIGNED it.

Republican Presidents will appoint people to the court who might uphold discriminatory laws that an R Congress would pass and R President sign.

This is just insane. For gay people, republicans are a DISASTER. You are fuckin' nuts.

Particularly since I have elderly parents. I'm getting up there in age myself, and I care.

Worse under Republicans? Do you think Republicans can pass "gay marriage is illegal under state laws"?

And are you blind to the fact that the DoJ repeatedly attempted to uphold DADT and it was the courts that ultimately struck it down - by the works of Republicans?

That doesn't sit well in the eyes of many gay Democrats. Bill Clinton always enjoyed tremendous support from gays, because he pushed the agenda. He may not have made it all the way, but he tried. Obama has tried to push us backwards in many cases. If Democrats start seeing gays as their enemies, they need a head check. We have always been tireless advocates, and tend to donate - I certainly have.

If you don't dance with the ones that bring you, or even worse, through punch all over them . . . well, that's idiocy.

Obama REPEALED DADT!!!!!!

Clinton made it law!

You've got to be kidding!

Dems campaigning across the country with a list of all the Bridges etc other infrastructure neglect.
Hold the cutters accountable. I really like that idea

actually. But those techniques are pase for modern day center right democrats.

I know, parties change.

;)