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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:42 AM Original message |
As one of the strongest US presidents EVER, Obama is bizarro FDR | Salon/Sirota |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. The "list" proves this |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. comes a point where it can't cut both ways. Sirota makes a good point, and does it better |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Dupe |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. it's a paradox, a zen koan - just let the "ideology" wash over you |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Can it be reconciled? The utterly helpless leader for our times? |
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SugarShack (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. Oh yes...it's a dupe...so make it go away....boo hoo. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. One of the great apologias we keep hearing: "Obama is a great leader! But he's too weak! He's |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Omgosh!!! Villager, that's so well said! |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Well, thanks, but I wish we had the guy I voted for in there, instead |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Obama Bound. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You prove that ideologues don't give a shit about REALITY. Ignore the actual leftward progress |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. can you explain what you mean by "ideologues?" |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Leftward progress? We're about to lay hands on the vestiges of the New Deal. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. well you see, if you weren't such an ideologue about this Social Security thing, you see that CEOs |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I forgot. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Anymore economic "leftward progress" by Obama and we shall enter a full scale economic depression! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. it's all relative... |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
60. it has for some, I did read somewhere that some will follow their leader no |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
57. Sweetie, you lost your grip on reality the moment you saw Obama in his swim trunks. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. Sirota knows how to play to his ideologue audience. Doesn't matter he's lying. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. so, you disagree that Obama is fundamentally a strong president -- you hold that he is weak? |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Yes, we must pity him. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
11. Utter |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Oh but it's wrong to use a blue link to prove something! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Bernie Sanders is a convenient progressive stamp of approval -- but you misrepresent him... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. But shouldn't he have stood his ground? |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. It is Mitt Romney's plan |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. Absolutely accurate. This is why Liberals are upset. He is not |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
23. ************FDR HAD 83% DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS************* MORE OBAMA BASHING!!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. "It's Not His Fault: Obama 2012". |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. LOL |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Oh, God. That's EXACTLY what it's going to be, isn't it? Incumbents rarely win that argument. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. not when he started. He got the people on his side and had |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. Right. Then it was a handful of Republican Senators who were too much to handle. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. so did Obama -- for two years. |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
61. Obama 2012: |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
25. But, but |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
27. what would reagan do? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
29. "one of the strongest . . . " - you don't see that very often - for good reason |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
31. Okay, when moron* fucked up, we blamed him*... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. that's the brain-wrecking effect of personality politics. we're expected to weep like tweens for our |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. ... |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. YES. Unfortunately, while leadership is a JOB, politics is a personality & fund-raising contest. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. I can only imagine what their bedrooms look like |
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TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. you think there is such a thing as Obama underoos? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. This is emerging as bottom line on Obama. He's a pro-corporate, anti-social program conservative. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. He is the most powerful corporate suit we've ever had |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Yes. I tire of hearing how impotent he is to close Gitmo or let tax cuts expire, etc. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Most people get confused about what he can do and what Congress |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. He can argue the truth AND stick to it. His hero Reagan demanded a clean raise of the cap and GOT IT |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I still cannot believe his hero is Ronald Reagan! |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. And a huge, HUGE, corporate shill. I swear those "hearing aids" were piping in instructions from GE. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. ground-up, smash mouth politics - starting with precinct captainships. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
37. Glad to see some in the media finally waking up. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
40. k&r. nt |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
42. Liberal=Humanitarian not Corporate |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
49. k & r |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
53. absolutely! |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. ''The president has the political muscle to enact a progressive agenda, but he doesn't want to.'' |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. political power is not just about legislation - it's about strategy |
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