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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:10 AM
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Putting to rest an oft-repeated (and false) narrative about the 2010 midterms
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 02:58 AM by markpkessinger

Fri Aug 05, 2011 at 09:46 PM PDT


Did liberals really stay home and cause the 2010 rout?


By Scientician


You know what I'm talking about. The claim that a bunch of liberals were so pissed off at Obama that they stayed home and this caused the 2010 rout. It's pervasive. I won't link to examples because it comes up so regularly I see no point singling anyone out.

So I went back to the exit polls and the picture I see shows nothing like that. If you are a proponent of this claim, I challenge you for empirical proof that some set of activist liberals "took their ball and went home" or whatever metaphor you prefer to make Obama's leftward critics appear childish and immature. Inside, the evidence I found that shows this just ain't so.

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Exit polls are complex, and there's lots of moving parts, between various groups showing up in different numbers, and actual people changing their minds, ideologies, or party affiliations. Not to mention new voters appear, some die off, everyone else ages, there is no picture perfect apples to apples comparison of one election to the next.

Still the claim that petulant liberals punished Obama to their own detriment is repeated so often with such certitude, I thought I would request to see the proof of it, because I don't see it, in the most obvious place it would appear if it were there, the proportion and voting of actual liberals in comparable elections. If you have some more complex explanation of how it really happened, I would like to see it, because all I see is the proportion of the voting population calling themselves "conservatives" grew tremendously at expense of those calling themselves "moderates." Either a bunch of moderates became conservatives, or moderates stayed home, or a lot of conservatives who usually stay home came out. Or some combination of those things. Yet any of those explanations would be tremendously at odds with the "blame the progressives" explanation.


Read full article at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/06/1003805/-Did-liberals-really-stay-home-and-cause-the-2010-rout?via=siderec
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:19 AM
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1. It will change nothing sadly... but it is nice to see data
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:40 AM
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2. K & R.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:45 AM
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3. I' ve been posting those exit polls so often, I almost have them memorized
and it doesn't make any difference. People who want to bash liberals are not interested in the facts.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 03:32 AM
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4. It's Those "Swing" Voters Again
The Tee Vee swung 'em back around again :(
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 04:15 AM
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5. Well, a lot of people who vote for our side of aisle tend to vote only in
presidential elections.

It's pretty much a given that over 15-20% of the potential voting population only votes in presidential elections.

The drop off is steep.

That is why the dem's were pushing so hard for extending early voting and making it easier to register and vote by mail.

This is also why the GOP is dead set against increasing the ease of voting because they know casual voters tend to vote Democrat.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 04:24 AM
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6. The voters that were new voters in 2008 did.
That was my assessment with the largest drop off coming from the young.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 04:47 AM
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7. A funny thing about statistics
You can use them to say that "things are normal, nothing to see here". Here is the bottom line locally, the folks who made up the 85,000 vote margin President Obama took in my county in 2008 did not show up in 2010. They were not voting in 2006 because they were largely not registered to vote then. Prior to 2008 we had been consistently electing the conservative republican candidate to the US House since desegregation in the 1960s. In 2008, we elected Alan Grayson, in 2010 we didn't.

If you look at 2006 for comparison, you will find that turnout for 2010 was "normal". The people who did not show up and vote in 2010 were not registered and therefore did not show up and vote in 2006. You can politically label these folks anyway you want, but using 2006 as a comparison makes the absence of who ever they were completely unremarkable and appear entirely "normal". The unfortunate bit is that "normal" here is electing conservative republicans, not Alan Grayson.

In short, "normal" here for an off year election is that very few folks you might class as "liberals" actually show up at the polls, and the conservative republican wins. This is a statistically "normal" result, but I still don't like it.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 05:02 PM
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8. Yeah, that's kind of what happens when you get a bunch of young voters all worked up
with promises of hope and change and backpedal. Many had voted once in their entire lives so far and they saw exactly how it worked out.

And now we're going to lure them back in with promises of prosperity through free trade: One of the things that crippled Gore. It would be funny if it weren't sad.
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