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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:32 AM
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You'd think the President would hold a presser and point out S&P's indictment of the GOP
You'd think, anyway. I dunno, maybe he feels it would be "too partisan".

PB
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CelticThunder Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:33 AM
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1. Don't be mean. It might hurt Boehner's feelings!
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:38 AM
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4. We don't want that. If Boehner starts crying, it could collapse the orange juice futures market.
:rofl:

PB
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:42 AM
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8. I think another round of golf is in order.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:34 AM
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2. It certainly wouldn't be bipartisan behavior that's for darn sure.
Bipartisan works if you're dealing with 2 equally reasonable sides.

Bipartisanship working with thugs and terrorists? = Epic Fail.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:36 AM
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3. He's way too interested in muddying the water so the bad guys and good guys are all mixed up...
We had a crystal clear identifying issue after Paul Ryan's plan came out, only to have the WH muddy that up by voluntarily putting Medicare on the table.

imo his agenda isn't anything like ours.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:39 AM
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5. I don't think he has anything to say at this point and he is probably
being advise to keep a low profile today so he won't be blamed too much when the market tanks tomorrow. Politics as usual, I'm afrad.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:42 AM
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6. that would be unfair and unsporting.
best to ridicule the messenger.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:42 AM
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7. his team likes them donations
they get from Repuke CEOs....they are all in on this mess...imo
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:43 AM
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10. So what does S&P want again?
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:43 AM
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11. He's got a couple surrogates out today.
Sperling and Larry Fookin' Summers

Obama's economic advisors wage Sunday offensive against S&P
By Alexander Bolton - 08/07/11 10:47 AM ET

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/175793-obamas-economic-advisors-wage-sunday-offensive-against-standard-a-poors-
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:44 AM
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12. Shouldn't the liberal media be pointing out the truth?
I mean isn't that their job?

Shouldn't we be asking them why this isn't their primary message?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:44 AM
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13. I'm not the least surprised.
Why should he start speaking up now?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:45 AM
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14. Not Presidential or Bipartisan. Outside of his safety zone. nt
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:50 AM
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15. You'd think people would realize that
cowboy diplomacy went back to Dallas.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:57 AM
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17. Didn't the NFL ban spiking the ball and dancing in the end zone?

If they can figure out unsportsmanlike conduct, then our politicians should be able to grow a clue.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:50 AM
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16. If he were to do that, why the hell would he do it on a weekend?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:05 PM
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19. As I state in the reply below yours, to get out in front of the markets. nt
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:09 PM
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20. ^ This
I will absolutely concede that trying to predict the markets is difficult. But it's not going to be difficult to predict that this move by the S&P will cause instability. Which is why the S&P waited till close of market to make the announcement. If he doesn't get out in front first, there's also the game of catch-up he's going to have to play with the GOP who are (of course) blaming him entirely for this mess.

PB
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:08 PM
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27. YES,YES and YES! nt
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:03 PM
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18. Wouldn't you though? Our country is at peril. This, today, would be a great time
to come out of the WH bunker and in no uncertain terms to explain to the American people what has been perpetrated and to lay out a course of action and to reassure the people in these scary times. I think it would be a good thing to do before the markets re-open too.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:10 PM
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21. I'm a big critic of the President's but even I don't want to see him get stiffed with this...
...they way the Repukes are already trying to pin it on him.

PB
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:07 PM
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26. Absolutely! I don't think the President helped our case, was not forceful
enough and to me, a bit late getting into the game HOWEVER the S&P downgrade isn't his to own! I've been critical too when I think it was warranted.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:54 PM
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22. Wouldn't do him any good.
Rednecks and PUMAs will still blame him.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:55 PM
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23. he can't even say the tea party is responsible. You want him to take on S&P?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:00 PM
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24. Can you rephrase that? The OP is not about taking on the S&P but simply pointing out that.....
...the S&P downgrade specifically points to Rebublican obstreperousness as a major factor in the downgrade.

PB
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:06 PM
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25. The man doesn't have a drop of fight in him - every opportunity to frame the issues
is lost with him.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:20 PM
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28. I care not one bit about S&P's indictment.
S&P was complicit in creating the economic downfall. That they would criticize us for our present state is the height of hypocrisy.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:25 PM
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29. The S&P downgrade is a mix of political good and bad for him. What he apparently can't do...
...is reverse it or its impact. What I'm wondering about is why he hasn't yet worked to weld the Republican party to that downgrade, seeing as they are mentioned (and blamed) by name in it.

PB
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:33 PM
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31. Their official statement does not mention either party.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:05 PM
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33. Yes it absolutely does. See here:
From S&P's own press release, from their own website:
We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act.


PB
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:51 PM
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34. No that is not the official statement
This is: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/sp-downgrades-us-aa-outlo... . You are quoting from the background research which led to the official statement. The problem is that if you accept some parts of that then you have to accept it all. You don't get to pick and choose. They also call for "entitlement containment" and failure to deal with entitlements also led to the downgrade. Do you agree with them on that?
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animato Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:33 PM
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30. Obama knows it isn't that simple. Giant global elites have the reigns. This is
what we're up against. Being a Democrat means fighting against that but you cannot attack directly.

So the spin is that it's the bad teaparty but there's also the interests of the elite and they'll benefit from a newly elected Republican president if they can get it..
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:31 PM
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32. So you're saying the elites aren't benefitting now?
"Giant global elites have the reigns."

And their most powerful puppet is Obama.

Every time I read someone trying to scare us with the thought of a Puke president, all I can think is "Oh catastrophe!!!1!!"

The global elites know they're better off with a prez with a D after their name. They accomplish two things--get everything they want and destroy the Democrat party with disbelief and disappointment.
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