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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:06 AM
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‘We weren’t kidding around, either,’ he said. ‘We would have taken it down.’”
“For Republican leaders, there was pride in a hand well played. ‘I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting,’ Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said. ‘Most of us didn’t think that. What we did learn is this — it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming.’…

“‘Would Democrats have ever agreed if they thought the new freshman class was going to roll over? No. The freshmen made our hand so much stronger,’ said in an interview. ‘You had a fear of how far they would go. I’m sure the president looks back, too, and was fearful. But in negotiations, isn’t that the best thing?’

“Chaffetz, who voted against both Boehner’s first proposal and the final bill, said he was well aware of how the leadership had used his and others’ willingness to let a default happen as a negotiating chip, and said he didn’t mind at all. ‘We weren’t kidding around, either,’ he said. ‘We would have taken it down.’”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/origins-of-the-debt-showdown/2011/08/03/gIQA9uqIzI_story_4.html
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:16 AM
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1. And they whine about being called "terrorists?"
These people are saying they would destroy the nation to further their ambitions. I think that is terrorism and treason all rolled into one.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:18 AM
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2. It's not a Tea Party Downgrade...
It's a Republican Downgrade!
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:54 AM
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5. and a preview of coming distractions. Or should I say detractions? n/t
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 09:55 AM by gkhouston
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:48 AM
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3. Bin laden would be proud of our home grown terrorists.
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animato Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:04 AM
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16. Bin Laden would absolutely approve and send donations nt
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:53 AM
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4. We need to spread McConnell's and Chaffetz quotes all over
the net.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:56 AM
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6. The Teahadists will STILL lovingly vote for McConnell and Crue!
Their hatred for liberals, Democrats and this president takes precedent over everything else . . . including their own livelihoods.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:13 PM
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31. But the squishy "independents" might not. nt
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:00 AM
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7. Yeah, they must be so proud.
Destroying a country is quite an achievement. :eyes:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:03 AM
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nutfuckery and more nutfuckery.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:03 AM
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8. nutfuckery and more nutfuckery.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:08 AM
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9. I posted this to Facebook.
“We weren’t kidding around, either,” he said. “We would have taken it down.” Rep Chaffetz (R-Utah) on the Republican's willingness to push the US into financial default.
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animato Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:05 AM
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17. +1 good idea
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:14 PM
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19. Steal it, use it.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:11 AM
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10. Looks like they got what they wanted... bringing down the economy.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:15 PM
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20. That's the only way they can get rid of New Deal protections.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:16 AM
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11. But why would the President,a Democrat? put Social Security and
Medicare on the table as bargaining tools, unless he just wants to be a 1 term President?
People I have talked to say they are troubled by Obama giving away the store to these idiots.
One does not have to conduct an official survey to find out that voters are pissed and look at it as...Well if a Republican get elected we lose SS and Medicare and if Obama gets elected we still lose so what choice do we have...
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:51 AM
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13. Primary Obama, that is the choice we have.
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animato Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:07 AM
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18. BS They are not talking cuts to benefits
Plus every candidate and even Howard Dean know that changes must be made due to the huge percent of GDP needed for Medicare
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:17 PM
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32. That's such a good plan
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 09:18 PM by MadMaddie
let's spend money on a primary when we have to run against' "Citizens United" Repugs.

Seriously, people we need to start thinking of getting through this election and retaining what we have which is the Presidency, win back in overwhelming numbers the House and gain more seats in the Senate.

Start planing for our Progressive 2016 candidate....

The Republicans planned for the long game....what do we do? we lurch from election to election and play the short game....

We are smarter then they are and they know it....we just don't know how to implement our strategy very well. We have to get better at it, if we want this country to survive.

:sarcasm:
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:37 AM
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12. Isn't this a public confession of treason? Doesn't this justify a drone attack? Why not?
The best thing Obama could do, and entirely legal under current law, is to simply drop a couple hundred missiles on Tea Party houses and offices.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:54 AM
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14. They've been planning this showdown since 2009?!!!
ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORISTS. Their hate and hatred FINALLY crossed the line. They jumped the shark. Vote out the crazies NOW!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:02 AM
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15. This is why the President should have used the 14th Amendment option
You don't negotiate with terrorists, you shoot them down like the rabid dogs they are.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:18 PM
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21. Very patriotic. Run that up a flag pole and see who salutes that, then push 'em off a cliff.
;)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:24 PM
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22. ttt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:27 PM
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23. the DID take it down....they fucked us all.
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 12:27 PM by spanone
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 01:27 PM
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24. Robert Reich quote
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 01:31 PM by alfredo
‎"Wall St insiders: Sell short. Drive stocks down. Kill small investors. Then buy and enjoy uptick. Liquidate. Pay 15% cap gains tax. Repeat."

Robert Reich


A coup d'etat is a blow against the state.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 06:41 PM
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26. OMG, that quote is astonishing
and makes me want to hurl my dinner.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 06:45 PM
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27. He's just reporting on what Wall St is doing to us right this Minute.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 07:18 PM
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28. Yes, I know
and HAVE been doing for quite a while now.

I don't have a problem with the quote, I have a problem with the REALITY HE DESCRIBES.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 07:26 PM
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29. Yeah, a lot of crooks are going to get even richer.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:43 PM
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34. Financial warfare in a nutshell.
Awesome quote. Thanks, alfredo.

"Wall St insiders: Sell short. Drive stocks down. Kill small investors. Then buy and enjoy uptick. Liquidate. Pay 15% cap gains tax. Repeat."

~ Robert Reich
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:20 PM
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25. " it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming."?????
"It’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming!"
"It’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming!!"
"IT'S A HOSTAGE THAT'S WORTH RANSOMING!!!"
"IT'S A HOSTAGE THAT'S WORTH RANSOMING!!!"???

Clearly, they have lost any fear of fair elections.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 07:33 PM
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30. You can't reason with those people. What do we have to do to get them out?
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:21 PM
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33. Now they're bragging about bringing on the downgrade in the credit rating!
We did it!! Woo-hoo!! Pop the corks on the champagne!!! Woo-hoo!!!

And then some wonder what the hell was George Bush thinking when he said, "Let's put the Social Security Trust funds in to the stock market."

In 2005.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:42 AM
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35. These people are of the same attitude of the Taliban or al Queda
or any criminal or terrorist organization (name your favorite). Oh yes, extortion is a great way to run a country huh?

They don't belong in public office. They belong in PRISON. But, since our Usurping Clown Court is infested with them too, and our President is a pink-tutu snivelling puffball, they'll never get put there.
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