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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:22 AM
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French engineer suggests harvesting icebergs as solution to drought
French engineer suggests harvesting icebergs as solution to drought

A French engineer has come up with an unusual solution for drought: Towing icebergs down from polar regions to solve chronic water shortages in the Horn of Africa, where more than 12 million people are currently living without clean water.

George Mougin, 86, first proposed the idea as an engineering graduate in the early 1970s. Together with Saudi prince Muhammad al-Faisal and polar explorer Paul-Emile Victor, Mougin formed the company Iceberg Transportation International and undertook research into whether it was possible to unlock the fresh water contained in icebergs. He was repeatedly told, however, that the project was too difficult and expensive.

“They are floating reservoirs,” said Mougin.

But in 2009, someone took him seriously: French software company Dassault Systems approached Mougin with a proposal to test out his theory using computer simulation technology. The initial simulation showed a 7 million-tonne iceberg being tugged from Newfoundland to the Canary Islands. In the simulation, the iceberg is lassoed and geothermal material used to cover the submerged part of the iceberg to prevent it from melting. Then, a tug boat drags the iceberg at the speed of one knot, arriving at its destination after 141 days.

http://www.periscopepost.com/2011/08/french-engineer-suggests-harvesting-icebergs-as-solution-to-drought/
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:30 AM
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1. I remember seeing that on The SuperFriends ...
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 09:30 AM by meegbear
Wonder Woman lassos an iceberg and flies it to a desolate area and drops it in. It melts and the people have fresh water.

Mougin must have seen the same episode.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:33 AM
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2. Geothermal material?
Why not use one of these?

just make it a little bigger....
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:39 AM
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3. This seems familiar....
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 09:40 AM by Rebubula
...





LOL...looks like my link was stripped...

Picture is from Brewster's Millions when he invested in just such an adventure...

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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:54 AM
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4. All right people....go GET that iceberg. What? There aren't any???! F$^K!!!!! n/t
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:18 AM
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5. Sounds as stupid as "let's take all the oil out of the ground and burn it as fast as we can"
It is MUCH easier to tow an iceberg somewhere and use all the water...

...than it is to even ATTEMPT to predict what kind of ecological effects this will have if adopted as a commercial practice instead of a one-time experiment.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:34 AM
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7. When you are dying of thirst, who's thinking about the eco-system?
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:17 AM
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8. umm... the ones that are asking why they're dying of thirst?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 05:12 AM
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10. "more than 12 million people are currently living without clean water."
Yes, I'm sure their number one concern is the dubious ecological conceits of well-hydrated 1st world Sierra Club Members.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:31 AM
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6. I've been saying that for thirty years. Bring 'em up from Antartica...those
are miles long and a thousand feet thick.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:36 AM
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9. Or spend those hundreds of millions
and build some solid desalination facilities along the coast.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 05:14 AM
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11. Yet, the desalination facilities still require large amounts of power to run.
Granted, solar would make a lot of sense, in that regard.

Still, if the icebergs are going to melt anyway, why not get them to some people who can drink them, first?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:57 PM
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12. I can't imagine they would take more power
than towing a massive iceberg and building the facilities to turn it into potable water. :shrug:

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:46 PM
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13. Actually, although I don't have the #s in front of me, I could see how they would.
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 03:46 PM by Warren DeMontague
Desalination requires a TREMENDOUS amount of power. If it didn't, it would be done all the time. Why do you suppose Los Angeles isn't doing it?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 04:20 PM
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15. LA doesn't do it
'cause they can get water from the rest of the state.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 05:40 PM
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18. "Large-scale desalination typically uses extremely large amounts of energy...
as well as specialized, expensive infrastructure, making it very costly compared to the use of fresh water from rivers or groundwater.<3>"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination

http://lightbucket.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/large-scale-desalination-is-there-enough-energy-to-do-it/

http://www.desware.net/desa4.aspx
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:48 PM
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14. Don't worry. Eventually you'll be able to dip a cup down at knee level and get a free drink
of iceberg water.
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lonestarlib Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 04:25 PM
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16. There was a short lived tv series with Andy Griffith in which
they did that in the first episode.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 04:37 PM
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17. Capitalistic solution: Sell rope to thirsty natives and point to the icebergs
"See, you can just lasso that dude and simply pull it to your country. Presto! Fresh, cold water."

Act now and get a set of Ginzu® knives!

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