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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:24 AM
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Is anyone wondering about moving their IRA to Cash??
Hard to know what to do.

I lost 1/2 of my modest IRA last time the market crashed.

My guy said that because I am mutual funds, I have to wait until the end of the day.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:25 AM
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1. Did it last thursday
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:26 AM
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2. wish I had. I usually buy high and sell low.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:38 AM
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11. Most people do because of this very panic
As Buffett says: "buy when others are selling and sell when others are buying."
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alterfurz Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:31 AM
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24. (Murphy's?) Rule of Panic
If you are going to panic, always do so before everyone else does.
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Tess49 Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:02 AM
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26. So did I. Could not afford to lose more of what little I have. n/t
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:29 AM
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3. So...you wnat to sell it now when it's the lowest...and buy it back later
when it's more expensive?

If you don't need it now, keep it where it is. It will come back up. In fact put more in when it so low.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:29 AM
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4. At my age I've been holding all cash in ING. Not the best, but I've never lost
anything. The interest is horrible, but I don't have enough years left to start over again.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:30 AM
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5. I cashed mine out two weeks ago...
but I'm over 59, and I needed to pull some out to pay property taxes in any event. I don't know if it depends on the fund, or not; but, if I wait till after 3 p.m. Eastern time, I would have to wait till the close of the NEXT day to see what the sale price is going to be.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:43 PM
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31. thanks for the tip
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:32 AM
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6. No
I've got another 20 years before I'll start tapping mine.

Between then and now, I'll be gradually reducing my exposure to stocks.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:37 AM
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9. Smart way to go IMO. You've got time and things could change a lot in 20 years. Knee
jerking in the markets usually makes one a loser.
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:32 AM
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7. Did it last summer when the DOW was about 11500. I managed
to dodge most of the damage in '07, then rode the market back up. I got nervous last summer expecting a double dip. I've been kicking myself for missing out on another thousand points in gains. Not kicking myself right now though.
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:35 AM
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8. We put 75%
in an interest income fund several years ago. My husband is a Ford retiree, so we kept the other 25% in Ford stock and are just sitting on it.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:38 AM
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10. Way too late to do so now.
If anyone is that close to retirement and that concerned about principal loss, they should have gone to cash a month or two ago.

If you do so now, you're just locking in losses.

I have 20+ years to go until retirement. I stay fully invested. Things will, eventually, get much better.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:43 AM
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14. To quote John Lennon (in "Getting Better"): "They can't get
much worse." :) Always got a kick out of that line.

N.B. Stocks lost 80% of their value from 1929-1935. So, while things eventually got better, it can sometimes take quite a long time.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:13 AM
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17. 80% was price only. When you figure in dividend reinvestment to purchase
new shares, it was still ugly, but not nearly AS ugly.

And, again, that's why I stay diversified. I don't own just large, U.S. stocks.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:16 AM
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18. The OP is a bit misleading too, as the most you can do with
most IRAs is to move from stocks to money market or stable value funds. Those are not entirely devoid of risk either, although far less risky than stocks. In other words, you can't move from stocks to 'cash' in an IRA without paying early withdrawal penalties and regular income taxes on the amount withdrawn.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:41 AM
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12. I've been hoping to, but I don't have the requisite 'vested' amt yet ...
... the company I work for allows us to take it out once we've reached a certain threshold, and I've only been involved for about a year, and at a low % rate (cause I don't make much) so have been just short of the 'minimum necessary'. Kissing it allgoodbye, now. Sigh.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:43 AM
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13. I did that six months ago.
Cash is doing fine in the fire safe.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:12 AM
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16. Reminds me of my grandfather during the Great Depression, had all of their
money buried in the back Yard in well hidden locations. As a little kid I thought that was really really weird years later, now I really see his logic, and they survived the Great Depression quite well, got out before the fall, saw it all coming.


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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 09:45 AM
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15. I put a good portion of mine into GOLD.
Last time I readjusted, I decided to roll the dice and move a nice chunk of my 401k into gold and precious metals. That's the only thing that has saved me so far. By waiting it out and not panicking, we were able to make up more than what we lost during the last crash. Looking at my last quarterly statement, adding gold to the mix mitigated some of the other losses.
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:17 AM
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19. Did a long time ago....
but probably won't matter as the dollar collapses...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:18 AM
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20. now would be the height of stupidity....do not sell low
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 01:00 PM
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34. I know...I am just in a panic - thinking it will be ever lower tomorrow. nt
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:19 AM
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21. losses are only on paper until you actually sell
I'm a little nervous about giving even obvious investing advice, but it's true. This is quite different from saying that stocks won't keep going down, of course--they're looking pretty saggy today. But any losses my IRA account may have suffered don't affect me until I withdraw the money and lock those losses in.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:33 AM
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25. Bingo.
I'll still have the same number of shares when this is all over--more, because I keep buying every paycheck.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:19 AM
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22. No, it is a long term investment. eom
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 01:03 PM
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36. But, lost $100k back in the late 90's and have never earned it
back - so "long term" is REALLY "long term"
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 01:28 PM
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39. You know more than me about this stuff.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:21 AM
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23. Not Now - Screwn Again
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:04 AM
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27. If you don't sell you haven't lost a cent.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:59 AM
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28. Pulled ours out 2006/2007, paid the penalties, and bought dirt...
...in the rural South,
Bubble-Proof, Low Property taxes, abundant clean water (spring), long growing season
We live there now.

Its not for everybody.
My Wife & I are healthy and strong, no dependents,
and have the skills necessary to make this fun most of the time.

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:13 PM
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29. Did a couple of years ago along with my 401K
when I retired. I figured my money was a lot safer in a savings account. Though it is not earning much interest, as least the balance is not going down.
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FreeJoe Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:14 PM
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30. Taxes
I definitely wouldn't pull your money out of your IRA. If you do, you'll have to pay taxes on any pre-tax contributions and earnings and, if you are younger than 59.5, you'll have to pay a 10% penalty. If you are nervous, keep your money in the IRA but move it to someting safe like a money market fund.

As for me personally, I'm thinking about converting more money from my traditional IRA to my Roth IRA. I think my taxes will be going up, so this works from a tax standpoint. I'll also pay less in taxes if I do the exchange now while the market is relatively low.

I also tend to see these events differently. I'm a long term buyer of stocks. I'll be a seller in another decade or two. For now, when stock prices drop, I see it as Wall Street running a sale. When stock prices go up, I bitch.
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Philippine expat Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:54 PM
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32. Did it the day I retired in 2007 n/t
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:55 PM
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33. Already did, three years ago.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 01:01 PM
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35. Smarty! Funny how personal intuition is so powerful - much more
so than all the investment advisors put together.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 01:05 PM
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37. Same here - pulled out just before the last "downturn" and
glad I did. I have a way to go before retirement, but I have left it in cash because I knew that things were going to get worse. I'm not making anything, but these days I'm just into capital preservation.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 01:24 PM
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38. After 2008, I moved my 457 into money markets, I think
I am not too sure what I did, but I am not in stocks anymore.
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