S&P has become a direct arm of the GOP

Their chairman is a big Romney supporter.

This is a planned attack on Obama's reelection.

Boehner got 98% of what we wanted... an insufficient deal that right wing media would be able to convince the masses was Obama's doing.

They have been telling us all along that their singular goal was to destroy this presidency.

The reason is so that no Democrat would be elected again anytime soon.

When you join them in attacking him, even if your reasons are diametrically opposed to them, you aid their cause.

If we don't defend this President against the barbarians at the gate, it will be a very long time before we have a Democratic president again.

For all of his perceived flaws, he is better than any GOP president you could ever imagine.

That's their plan.

This is a slow motion coup.

The cons didn't do this by themselves, Obama assisted.

That is less energy focused on the GOP.

Like I said, the barbarians are at the gate.... we can either fire 100% of our ammunition at them..... or turn some of it internally on our ourselves.

Attacking Obama help the barbarians.

The whole system has become rotted to the core. We're not relevant anymore.

The only ones relevant anymore are what Bush II called his base. The haves and the have mores.

To close your eye's on any of their "shortcomings", is to divorce yourself from reality. This is about class, not party.

That was just hilarious. Seriously.

But you go on-- keep insisting that everyone close their eyes and just throw mud at the approved target.

"Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act. Key macroeconomic assumptions in the base case scenario include trend real GDP growth of 3% and consumer price inflation near 2% annually over the decade.

Standard & Poor’s | RatingsDirect on the Global Credit Portal | August 5, 2011
Research Update: United States of America Long-Term Rating Lowered To 'AA+' On Political Risks And Rising
Debt Burden; Outlook Negative"

It is their fault if the message does not get out.

on Stretch's show on Sunday. I would more likely believe that they didn't put that in their report to "cover their asses", and at the same time give the Dems some pretty damning ammunition. That statement was produced by people that are very careful at choosing their words.

They directly blamed the Republicans. Hard to spin that direct statement, but you are giving it a good try. It just doesn't match the evidence, IMO.

"Boehner got 98% of what we wanted... an insufficient deal that right wing media would be able to convince the masses was Obama's doing.

They have been telling us all along that their singular goal was to destroy this presidency."


So why does he continue to act like they are honest participants in this whole process?? We know this, he knows this.... when will he abandon the "bipartisan" canard?? I don't get it..

But like I said.... focusing on him takes the focus off of GOP.

From June 3:

Moody's Investors Service warned Thursday that it might review the government's Aaa debt rating for a possible downgrade as early as next month if there is no progress toward a deal in Washington to increase the $14.294 trillion federal borrowing limit and cut deficits.

It didn't get much press.

...continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act."

From S&P's official press release, from their official website.

PB

Because it ties the Repukes directly to the downgrade. Right now it's a different story, but he'll have this quote memorized for use during debates:

"We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act."

PB

If he doesn't go on the attack with it then I'm at a loss. Maybe not today. Today could just be too soon. But the bus is on fire and he needs to start pointing fingers because the GOP is already in high-gear to put an Obama sticker on every bad thing that happens, regardless of how responsible the president is or not.

If ever there was a moment for him to "snap out of" this overly conciliatory, aloof mode (if only posturing for the 2012 elections) this would be as good a time as any. Again, it could just be too soon, I dunno.

PB

Obama is one smart dude.
He's got them right where they wanted to be lead.

Instead of whining about the fact that rich people own the media outlets (duh) Democrats need to find ways to use their need for drama and find other outlets.

If we don't manage that, we might as well just give up. You can't harangue and belittle the rich people into doing the right thing. We were supposed to be electing a smart man. He needs to prove those smarts.

is a Romney supporter..but when I google I only find comments on blogs. Do you have a link? I often go to other political sites and 'debate' and would like a link to back me up.

Thanks in advance.

They FAILED to see the last crisis coming for political reasons in my opinion.

Other than that, your reasoning has MAJOR Flaws. Obama caved plain and simple. He could have fought back but he does not have a spine. He reversed directions and will likely runin any good that was done with the first stimulus.

OBAMA NEEDS A FUCKING SPINE. HE NEEDS TO FIGHT. IF HE WILL NOT DEFEND HIMSELF THEN FUCK HIM.

I didn't even think they allowed that here?

has been for years.

Anyone have any dirt on McGraw-Hill?

S+P is part of the MORAN party

This is why you don't negotiate with terrorists. They know Obama is caught between a rock and a hard place. They are now lowering the hammer.

There is virtually nothing Obama can do to keep from being blamed from this fallout. The mythical uninformed "independent" voters are going to blame Obama for this.

While Obama was taking Boehner "at his word," the GOP was using their words and weapons to achieve their greatest goal: making sure Obama is one-term President. They don't care if they take the rest of us down with them.

They already got theirs and a bit more, thanks to Obama.

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