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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:36 PM
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Central Croydon is on fire
according to a good friend - he is very worried since he lives near by
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:39 PM
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1. Some on the BBC live updates:
2108: Aerial footage is showing what the BBC believes is a large furniture store on a street corner in Croydon completely ablaze.

2104: Peter Truman, a reporter at the Croydon Guardian, tells the BBC most people in Croydon have just gone indoors and shut their doors, and the main reaction is shock.

2058: Aerial footage is now showing several fires burning in Croydon, south London.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:41 PM
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3. It looks like the people have had enough of this shit...
in one way or another.

However, the mob is not the future, it is merely the tipping point. It is the moment when people reclaim their power, and real change can only come when that power is used coolly and calmly.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:56 PM
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21. This isn't '*the* people', but you're right, it's a mob
It's a few people, and if they want to show they're pissed off at the government, then they should target something to do with government. Occupy government buildings; take over a BBC radio station and broadcast what's wrong, or something like that. This is mainly inchoate rage wanting to strike out, or some thieves looking to take advantage of the situation.

Ask the vast majority of the people at the moment, and they'll be worrying about their homes, or people they know who live in city centres.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:43 PM
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5. Thanks
Guess there will be jobs now - in construction.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:44 PM
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8. Watching on BBC now
What happens to the Birmingham test match this week?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:49 PM
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16. they better start worrying about the Olympics...2012
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:52 PM
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19. Well they have a test match to worry about in Birmingham
this week and the match is sold out.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:41 PM
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2. Babylon's burning
Babylon's burning
You're burning the street
You're burning your houses
With anxiety

With anxiety
Babylon's burning
Babylon's burning
With anxiety
Babylon's burning
Babylon's burning

Babylon's burning
You're burning the street
You're burning the ghetto
With anxiety

...
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:42 PM
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4. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, malaise.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:44 PM
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6. Having had command of EMS side during a RIOT
FD better be careful... all become targets, you wear a uniform, you are a target.

Once this is over there has to be an understanding of WHY this is happening. As to your friend... STAY INDOORS... really, STAY INDOORS.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:46 PM
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9. There won't be an understanding...hasn't happened in 30yrs.. by either govt or police


nothing has changed much since the first riots in Brixton..
Why start now?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:47 PM
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12. Because there is a point when you have to
and don't worry, for systemic reasons I fear our own cities burning as well.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:48 PM
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14. I'll not hold my breath...waiting
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:00 PM
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23. Didn;t say to hold it
but tipping points are interesting. Usually they are the kind of things we manage to finally see in the rear view mirror.

So when it happens it will not be immediately obvious to anybody.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 05:11 PM
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24. Another example of the Poor working against their own interests.
They burn down their own communities, the only thing that gives them strength.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:49 PM
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15. PM cuts cancels the holiday - Bwaaaaaaaaaah
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/08/london-riots-third-night-live

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675
Live coverage here
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:51 PM
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17. Boris the mayor had to come running back too..Home sect too..
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:51 PM
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18. Cameron is a cheap scumbag
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14442611
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:44 PM
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7. Apparently kids are roaming out on the streets in this..

flyers being handed out..telling rioters how to avoid being arrested..
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:46 PM
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10. PM returns tomight
Kids as young as ten on the streets looting - cigarettes and spirits. Clapham reporter sayshe sees no police - just a road block.

Will the Mayor return?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:56 PM
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20. This isn't just about looting its anger at the system
which is corrupt and geared for the rich.

The anger has been growing and growing and sometimes
it only takes something that at other times would not set the fuse to trigger the rage.

I think the Murdoch bullshit showed how corrupt it was as well as the austerity measures, the war, the bullshit wealth disparities it just adds up
until the fuse is lit.

I hope your friends will be OK.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:59 PM
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22. Friends and family are OK so far
It's about more than that - you can't show non stop coverage of the Arab spring, cheer them on and discuss the economic side of that struggle and not expect those at home to wonder about the conditions of their lives. I don't condone the burning and looting of property but everyone will be paying attention shortly and what's more there will be construction jobs when the rubble is cleared.
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:48 PM
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13. Isn't it nice that they still have homes to worry about sanatizing,
unlike the victims of their firesetting.
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:46 PM
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11. Children of men.
But with continued fertility.
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