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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:15 AM
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kos: Wisconsin wrap up, a real victory, and we fight on
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 at 10:21 PM PDT
Wisconsin wrap up, a real victory, and we fight on

by kos

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But let me just say, if tonight was a loss, I hope we have many more such "losses" in 2012.

We took the fight into red territory, and took two seats. What was a safe 19-14 GOP advantage is now a narrow 17-16.
If we had those numbers going into 2011, the anti-labor bill would never have passed—one GOPer voted with the Democrats (and hey, Sen. Dale Schultz, the water is mighty fine on our side of the aisle!).

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Beyond Wisconsin, if we can enjoy a similar "loss rate" in Republican-held districts (picking up 33 percent of them), Speaker Nancy Pelosi will have a huge majority in 2013. We had a message that resonated with large numbers of working people in overwhelmingly white working-class districts that shifted hard against Democrats in 2010. GOP overreach is winning them back for us. Just think, before today, only 13 state legislators had been recalled in the entire history of this nation.

So yeah, I feel strangely energized and elated.

It's going to be a long year, and tens of millions of dollars of Koch money (in addition to hundreds of millions more from Rove and allies) are going to force us to fight like hell for every inch of territory. They won't cede it willingly or fairly. They'll do their best to cheat or buy whenever they feel they can't win fairly.

That's our challenge. I, for one, am ready for it.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:22 AM
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1. I'm confused. If the Democrats winning three seats gave them the majority why does winning two seats
not make it even? Is there funny math going on? Am I missing something?
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:27 AM
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2. There's an ODD number of seats in total. 33. Can't be even.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:31 AM
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3. Dems took 2 seats from GOP last night: 19 minus 2 for GOP, 14 plus 2 for Dems. Results: 17-16.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:32 AM
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4. Also ignores the two D seats up for recall next week.
Sorry, I can't be a cheerleader on this either.

If the author thinks that winning 2 when you need 3 is a victory, I hope they don't advise the DCCC.

Victories like this cost millions of $ that we're going to need for next year and gained a 1 or 2% win, in an already leaning Dem district in one case ... and the result is we still have a minority.

I guess when you spend that much money and don't achieve what your objective was, you have to try and claim some kind of pyhhric moral victory. The only problem is moral victories make you feel all warm and fuzzy and full of piss and vinegar, but they don't win votes on the Senate floor in Madison. I thought that was the goal?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:40 AM
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6. Huh?
WI just recalled 6 pub Senators and got rid of two.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:34 AM
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5. Major victory winning two seats from Repugs in red districts. n/t
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